What Pistol for Suppression??

[NurseTim]

Originally Posted by longrange1947

Get an old colt woodsman and have a good smith reset front sights and buy low velocity 22 ammo. The weapon will not function as a semi but rather as a single shot that has to be manually recycled.

Revolvers cannot be suppressed, and fully functioning semis cannot as the escaping gasses from the cycling will cause noise problems. Some delayed blow back ones will though. However you are then using full pressed ammo and that also causes problems at pistol ranges.

Alternative is the suppressed Hi Standard.

Not what you wanted was it.

No so fast professor. Marked pogue's evidence A: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UKoCIeqVHIY

Better looking than the goober I saw first, enjoy.

[JJ_BPK]

Originally Posted by NurseTim

Better looking than the goober I saw first, enjoy.

Agreed, I didn't know the Nagant was that cute..

Found a Nagant test with the 9mm & 45 Osprey can.
Not bad results,, but not worth chasing..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GStcHyGQwcQ

[JJ_BPK]

Still looking..

Any opines on the FN FNX Tactical ???

I have always loved the 1911 SA trigger, but realize SA/DA is here to stay..

• 15rd mag
• slide re-leaved for fastfire type optic
• changeable grip + lanyard loop
• Tactical Cool Tan
• 33oz empty
• DA/SA
• ambi controls
• Replaceable slide rails
• MIL-STD 1913 mounting rail
• Raised night sights for suppressor use

FN FNX site

[UWOA (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

I thought so too until I fired one that shot a .30 bullet and you could only hear the hammer drop........ that said drop it in the sand and it would probably not function afterwards.

Top,

Why do you drop your weapon in the sand? Is there something I should know?

.

[JJ_BPK]

Update:

In looking for a new base for my next suppressor purchase, I visited several LSG' and a couple gun shows.

I have fondled the full size HK , SIG, and 1911, 9MM & 45ACP offerings (5+ inch barrel). I also fondled the SIG Carry size or 1911 Commander (4+- inch barrel)

Observations:

1)hi-cap fat grips just don't feel good, I get the feeling the pistol will twist left or right in recoil. I feel more comfortable with single stack.

2) 9 mm vs 45 ACP, The 45ACP wins hands down. It is sub-sonic by default. The 9MM gets less effect with sub-sonic loads.

3)Brands? I much prefer alloy frames over plastic. SIG wins (PS: I did not even look at glock)

4)SA or DA or DOA or SAO. My preference is SA, but I tried the SIG DA/SA with the SRT (short reset trigger),, it's very nice. I am also impressed with the SIG DA (9-10lbs) and SA (5-6lbs).

So, I started looking for a SIG P220 Carry, with light rail, SRT, & threaded barrel. I was not impressed with the various sand colors, but for a deal??

This weekend I went to the gun shows in Jacksonville and Palatka. I found a SIG P220R Carry Elite Black, in the box. Looks almost new, dealer display marked "used". It had a couple marks were a light was mounted. The rail on the frame and grip had zero ware, If it was fired it does not show. Best part was the price,,

I did a bunch of checking GunBroker, other retail sites, private sales on public gun fora,, it looked like 750-850USD was the target median price..

650 USD OTD. I think I did good..

Checked the serial build date,, April 2007..

The P220 Elite Black was developed for Air Marshals or MARSOC or some other secret squirrel outfit. (C attached pics for specs)


Now I need to find a threaded barrel, or a P220 full size barrel to be threaded.

Do we have anyone that does barrel threading??

[longrange1947]

Originally Posted by UWOA

Top,

Why do you drop your weapon in the sand? Is there something I should know?

.

Back in the early 80s, had some ragnars going through Mott Lake. One dropped his pistol i the sand, by accident, and after he picked it up noted that it was tighter. Thus several dropped theirs in the sand to tighten theirs up as well.

Nope, did not go over well.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by longrange1947

Back in the early 80s, had some ragnars going through Mott Lake. One dropped his pistol i the sand, by accident, and after he picked it up noted that it was tighter. Thus several dropped theirs in the sand to tighten theirs up as well.

Nope, did not go over well.

N is for "nowledge"!

[demodude]

If you are looking for a can, look watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OznQ-Rb1CC8
John use to work for ACC, now for Sig. If you know silencers, then you should know who he is. The genius troll knows cans! a Sig can is hard to beat.
No need for an outer extra tube, new 360 welding process, 20% more internal volume. Better, quieter, cheaper, best all around can out there!

[Beef]

Sig also has a special program where military (including retired) and LEOs can buy their firearms at an up to 40% discount through certain authorized dealers. I bought a P22 subcompact .40 and a P226 Dark Elite a couple of years ago through the the program. The savings were worth the three month wait. Check their website for details.

http://www.sigsauer.com/LawEnforceme...r-Program.aspx

[JJ_BPK]

Had a chance to get in some range time.

P220R, Fantastic ( c pics) three targets, 50 rnds each, could not be happier. The best was some retail 230 RN (pic T4), 2nd was a box of old mixed RN, TC, LRN, LTC (pic T2) and 3rd a box of LGS 230 LTC reloads (pic T6). Some FTF & FTE on the 1st box. Oiled the rails and the failures stopped. I tend to shot dry guns and this was a break-in run..

This is my 1st DA/SA SIG, it's smooth and the short reset trigger is great. It's not a tuned 1911, but I'm very happy. I did swap the Hogue big rubber grips for a set of SIG slim profile plastic. Fit me better and recoil was not a problem. My friend let me barrow his 1911, I think the SIG had less felt recoil.

I also had a chance to shoot the new can. AAC Element 2 on my PPK/s (pic T5 & T7). the rear sight needs to shift to right a tad, but I'm happy with the group at 30ft. I lucked out the mini-sights on the PPK actually cleared the can.

The black bulls are 1.5 inch and the red 1.25 inch. All shot at 30ft, indoor range.

[Hand]

Great shooting!

If you don't mind me piggy backing on your thread JJ_BPK, would you or any one else here know if there is a SIG P220 variant to the HK Luminova? sights?

I have a P220 and the tritium sights died on me. I would like to replace them with some Luminova sights but have yet to find any.

[JJ_BPK]

Originally Posted by Hand

Great shooting!

If you don't mind me piggy backing on your thread JJ_BPK, would you or any one else here know if there is a SIG P220 variant to the HK Luminova? sights?

I have a P220 and the tritium sights died on me. I would like to replace them with some Luminova sights but have yet to find any.

Not familiar with "luminova" but there are after market sights the are charged, if that is what your asking??

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/234...ProductFinding

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/234...ProductFinding

Not a big fan of lit sights, as they tend to upset my night vision, witch is still good.

When the tritium 1/2 life, on mine, dies, I might not bother to replace??

I am also ambivalent about flashlights on a home defense weapon.

YMMV..

[Guymullins]

Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

Not familiar with "luminova" but there are after market sights the are charged, if that is what your asking??

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/234...ProductFinding

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/234...ProductFinding

Not a big fan of lit sights, as they tend to upset my night vision, witch is still good.

When the tritium 1/2 life, on mine, dies, I might not bother to replace??

I am also ambivalent about flashlights on a home defense weapon.

YMMV..

Agreed. Darkness is your friend in your own home. The other parties don't know what the furniture and room layout is and you do.

[Hand]

Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

Not familiar with "luminova" but there are after market sights the are charged, if that is what your asking??

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/234...ProductFinding

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/234...ProductFinding

Not a big fan of lit sights, as they tend to upset my night vision, witch is still good.

When the tritium 1/2 life, on mine, dies, I might not bother to replace??

I am also ambivalent about flashlights on a home defense weapon.

YMMV..

I may be using the wrong word.
The HK has 3 dot sights. Each dot is a dimple in the metal of the sight post. Painted on to/(into) the dimple is a material that is white during day light but glows at night. If I hit mine for a quick second with a flashlight they will glow all night at an intensity very close to tritium. HK claims they will last a lifetime. I would really like to get some of these with the magic paint for my SIG.

If not, I will have to order some new tritiums, sadly my night vision is not as good as yours JJ_BPK!