06-04-2013, 11:53
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Originally Posted by Trapper John
REALLY??? I am decades out now, but I never dreamed that the sacred principles of leadership I learned (exemplified by "follow me") would no longer be applicable today....................
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That is an old, old statement from the 70's told to me by an old (Jeez, he must have been 35 at the time) 12B. Interplay between the Infantry and Combat Engineers.
It's a Mobility / Counter Mobility thing.
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06-04-2013, 15:27
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Originally Posted by Pete
(Jeez, he must have been 35 at the time)
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Now that is old school
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06-05-2013, 07:36
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Originally Posted by SF18C
But who will make their lunch if they take away their personal chef?
I shit you not, I got called one day to go fix a telephone problem in a 2-stars office. While I was there, a SSG brought in a tray full of food. I asked him “Where did that come from?” and his reply was the CG's chef made it in the General's Quarters kitchen and had it drove over.
At that I point I realized we had created feudal lords to rule over us!
Another General office story of Really??? We held an exercise in the Republic of Georgia a few years back. Now for those that aren’t up on the old east-bloc plumbing standards, every place we went had “squatty holes”. Well for the building our CG was going to stay in (he was there about two whole weeks) “they” had a “Commander’s Toilet” installed…and it came with a clean crew to boot! I still have the email somewhere from the G-3 that ordered everyone in the Task Force to stay away from the CGs potty!
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When I was an aide I was handed a piece of paper to photocopy standing in front of the photocopy machine. I asked my boss if he knew how to use said machine. "Yup, but this is your job." Every day thereafter was a quest to endure through the rest of the job and take lessons in how not to be a leader.
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06-05-2013, 11:50
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As the Post SDO of a certain Maneuver TRADOC post in the south, I had to compile the mornings Early Bird Articles into a .doc with a corresponding table of contents.
All of them. So it was about 80+ pages. It didn't take that long, but it made me really wonder the reasoning behind it. It would seem easier to just read the early bird off of AKO in the morning.
Additionally, I had a BN Commander at NTC who would have his driver de-kit him as he exited his vehicle. He would literally stick his arms out and his minion would run around him taking off his elbow and knee pads, etc . . .
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06-05-2013, 19:59
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I was sent up to fill in for the USASFC CG's aide while he went on leave for a week to get married. I had just gotten off of a team and during the orientation (I was instructed how the general liked his coffee, what things to put in the backpack that he liked that I had to carry, and how to make a haircut appointment) I got to meet the CG. Afterwards I got a phone call from his aide.
"No need to come back. He thinks your sideburns are too long," was the response. I looked in the mirror- they were regulation length- but at the time he was catching flack from the conventional side for all our guys wearing beards in Afghanistan.
I found out later that that had been an informal job application/trial- and I had failed. Thank god!!!
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06-05-2013, 21:10
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Yep, I interviewed twice, spoke my mind, and was told they'd get back to me if the General needed me.
I'm still waiting.
TR
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06-06-2013, 02:13
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Originally Posted by the squid
Additionally, I had a BN Commander at NTC who would have his driver de-kit him as he exited his vehicle. He would literally stick his arms out and his minion would run around him taking off his elbow and knee pads, etc . . .
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I know at least one sorry excuse for a human who fits this description. What a douchebag.
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