04-20-2012, 20:39
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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Originally Posted by SF_BHT
Young man
I would advise you to take about 10 steps back and take a deep breath. You have come here asking questions and QP's have given some answers and made observations and you then come back like some immature kid on twitter. Stop and remember where you are right now this is our house and you are a guest. When and if you graduate you than then have a little leeway. You have not even got a contract yet and the way you are interacting with proven Soldier's form SGM's to LTC's that took their time to respond I would say you are off to a really bad track in the possible future endeavors in the Army.
This is not the connected world that many kids live in and if you wish to succeed in the military or possibly in Special Forces you will need to change and adapt to the military way. Life is hard and if these comments hurt you are in for a world of hurt. If you can not adapt and take criticism you will fail.
Have you gotten those tattoo's off yet?
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Point well taken. My feelings weren't hurt, I unnecessarily pointed out a comment I found presumptuous. I rather dislike sites like facebook and twitter, and defended myself when I should have kept my mouth shut. The comment about me using my son angered me but I should have just let it go.
I'm starting the tattoo removal, but it is expensive and takes time. They aren't anything offensive but they are on my throat, chin and hands. I didn't think ahead, I was 18.
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04-20-2012, 20:45
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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Originally Posted by Eagle5US
You should be assisted shortly...
ETA:
-My "Dominance" (on this particular resource) was already well established by the trials which allow me the privilege to be a part of this particular website.
-You have indeed NOT corrected your previous mistakes - or if you feel you have we revert back to the attention to detail comment which I mentioned previously
-You did, in fact, use your son as an excuse for your actions in that the reason you gave for your type style was because you "were watching your son and whatever you did you had to do quickly"; although I see now that you have conveniently edited that part out.
You will fail should you ever attempt Special Forces training.
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I did not edit anything out what I said is still there.
I did not mean my son makes me type like shit. I meant the fact that I rush what I'm doing makes me type like shit. But an excuse none the less, I was typing like shit.
I will not fail, and i will bust my ass to prove that comment wrong.
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04-20-2012, 21:03
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Fayetteville, NC
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My humble advice
Eagle5US is always right.
In my heart of hearts, I believe SF is a calling.
I've always believed that if I worked hard and stayed on the "SF" path, it would all work out, and it did. SF was something I did and didn't worry about the details.
Your post sounds like an "if and only if" statement. Ex. I will go SF if and only if everything falls into place. It doesn't work that way. There are no guarantees that any of it will work out. If you go into SF with conditions for success, you will fail. That is just the way it is. No way around it.
Just my $0.02,
sf
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04-20-2012, 21:19
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: OCONUS...again
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Most likely:
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Originally Posted by FutureSFO
i am planning on enlisting 18x. my only issue is my family being taken care of. i hate to make it about money but will i make enough that my wife and son will live comfortably? at the moment my wife's job has the medical benefits, and when i leave for training she will have to watch our son full time, losing her benefits. at what point would my medical kick in? and when does pay start?
im sure it was rough at first but for those with family's how is everything working out for you guys?
thanks
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If you make it into the Army and through, basic, AIT, Airborne, SFAS, SFQC and on to an ODA; "Your wife will have probably moved on, and you may be paying alimony, however, you will be paying child support...."
How's that for an honest answer?
Stay safe.
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04-20-2012, 21:24
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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This is what I want. Nothing else I've done in the past has changed the fact that I see or hear about a soldier wounded or killed and I'm ashamed of myself for doing nothing about it. My days are one constant reminder after another I strayed from my path and made some bad decisions. And now I'm going to do something about it. I'm only trying to think of my family as well. I'll do what it takes, but that doesn't mean I can't try to keep my family grounded in the process. I realize I've already dug myself a pretty deep hole here and have only myself to thank, but I will not fail. Thank you everyone for the advice, and sorry to anyone I offended.
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04-20-2012, 21:25
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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Originally Posted by Guy
If you make it into the Army and through, basic, AIT, Airborne, SFAS, SFQC and on to an ODA; "Your wife will have probably moved on, and you may be paying alimony, however, you will be paying child support...."
How's that for an honest answer?
Stay safe.
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Sucks.. But appreciated
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04-20-2012, 21:38
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Originally Posted by Syl
Well, no one but you and your family is going to be able to say how they can handle it.
You will be making enough to survive though. Your benefits will start immediately, and you will get your family enrolled in DEERS and all of that when you go to basic. You will get BAH right away based on the current location of your home.
I have a family(wife and child) and we get along just fine on an E-4 pay with BAH, my wife works also which helps supplement a good amount.
After you get through selection you will be able to take permissive TDY and move your family out to the Bragg area if you like, or they can stay where they are at if your wife has a career or something going on. Either way you will get BAH and if you are a geographic bachelor you will get a barracks room too.
Good luck not getting flamed.
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Sly see the "sticky" at the top of this forum, the one that you failed to read? This is what it says:
This is a forum where civilians can "ask" the Special Forces soldiers past and present "Special Forces" related questions.
Those questions are then answered by Special Forces soldiers, period.
Questions asked by the general public should NOT be answered by the "general" public.
If you do not have the title of "Quiet Professional" you may ask a question, but leave the "answers" to the QP's.
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04-20-2012, 21:40
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Join Date: Jan 2004
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FSFO:
You need to read more and post less. To that end, you can start with "A Message to Garcia."
DO NOT post again for the next 30 days. Use that time to develop some Situational Awareness.
This thread is closed.....
Crip
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04-20-2012, 21:45
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Free Pineland
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The first thing you need to learn is how to use the Search button before starting new threads.
Second, you should acquire the skill of realizing that you are in a hole, and are holding a shovel.
Next, I recommend that you read "A Message to Garcia" before posting further.
Finally, this is our board and our rules. Success here is not a guarantee of success in SF, but demonstrated lack of rapport building skills is what we call an indicator and it will likely occur again in your career. If you persist in arguing with the QPs and staff, your time here will be short.
Frankly, the lack of judgment thing that you experienced with the tattoos may not have fully reconciled itself yet. I concur with the other QPs about the odds of you making it to graduation.
Since you are not an SF anything yet, what would you like for a new user ID?
TR
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