Tobacco(cigarettes) usage in SF

[Mr Furious]

Originally Posted by Ecclesiastes

Hello all,

I've been learning a lot from this forum the past year and now I want to post a new thread because I really can't find this anywhere..

Are there a lot of smokers(cigarettes) in SF, Delta or in any SOF like Navy SEALs? What would you say the percentage is compared to conventional units? I ask this because I quit smoking three months ago and I need a motivation to stay quit. I was hoping that maybe in SOF, operators are more cigar smokers than cigarette smokers. I'm not against cigarette smokers, I just need something to help me overcome this strong temptation in me right now. Any info will be greatly appreciated! And please tell me if I violated any rules. Thank you.

Go ahead and google "nicotine + bone graft"; it should give some insight. In 2003, MG(R) Lambert during a visit down range asked me when I was going to quit that stuff (I dipped Copenhagen at the time). "Let me tell you something"...He shared with me that they were finding out that the guys who dipped or chewed that were going through recovery had a difficult time with their grafts taking. I checked it out, and found that some very extensive research has been conducted that proves the negative effects of nicotine on the healing process. Check it out for yourself.

[mojaveman]

Originally Posted by Ecclesiastes

Hello all,

I've been learning a lot from this forum the past year and now I want to post a new thread because I really can't find this anywhere..

Are there a lot of smokers(cigarettes) in SF, Delta or in any SOF like Navy SEALs? What would you say the percentage is compared to conventional units? I ask this because I quit smoking three months ago and I need a motivation to stay quit. I was hoping that maybe in SOF, operators are more cigar smokers than cigarette smokers. I'm not against cigarette smokers, I just need something to help me overcome this strong temptation in me right now. Any info will be greatly appreciated! And please tell me if I violated any rules. Thank you.

A valid and possible option for quitting would be hypnotherapy. I've known a numer of people who have quit with this method. For it to be successful one has to go into the sessions with a positive attitude and an open mind. You might have to try several licensed hyponotherapists before you find one that can work successfully with you.

Originally Posted by dadof18x'er

he's in hold waiting for language class, I hope he don't slack off on his PT.

He'll be fine, thanks for the update. Best to you and yours.

WD

[98G]

Originally Posted by wet dog

I enjoyed many a good cigar after a mission, sometimes while sitting in the CSM's office, coffee with a little Jameson was always a nice touch, or was it, Jameson with a small touch of coffee, I can't remember.

I never smoked, but the motivation for most decisions is usually within, not external. Now to prove myself wrong, I read Jameson's (Thanks Wet Dog!) and I am stuck on having a glass of Jameson's Gold -- not with coffee but some hot tea and lemon with a clove in it.

[Gypsy]

Originally Posted by 98G

I am stuck on having a glass of Jameson's Gold -- not with coffee but some hot tea and lemon with a clove in it.

Change that hot tea to some hot water, add the Jameson's, lemon and clove. You have a Hot Whiskey. Yum.

[Costa]

You want motivation to quit?

My dad smoked Marlboros all throughout his service and most of his life.
He's now 6 ft under in Arlington.

Your call.

Originally Posted by Gypsy

Change that hot tea to some hot water, add the Jameson's, lemon and clove. You have a Hot Whiskey. Yum.

When I was a little guy with a bad cough. My grandmother would bring in two small glasses. One with hot lemon juice and honey, the other, a shot of Jameson. My grandfather would say, "now take the two drinks your grandma gave ya, one in each hand son, throw the lemon juice and honey over your left shoulder, the one in your right hand down ye throat".

[Red Flag 1]

Originally Posted by mojaveman

A valid and possible option for quitting would be hypnotherapy. I've known a numer of people who have quit with this method. For it to be successful one has to go into the sessions with a positive attitude and an open mind. You might have to try several licensed hyponotherapists before you find one that can work successfully with you.

Smoked on and off for a 20pkyr. Cigarettes, cigars, and pipe; never did dip or chew. When it came time to quit, all the pills, patches, mirrors, crystals held over my head, support groups, etc were a wasted effort for me. I had to want to stop.

Where ever the motivation comes from, go with it. It has been many years now and it is easier. There are still days when the red Marlboro box just screams my name.

RF 1

[Gypsy]

Originally Posted by wet dog

When I was a little guy with a bad cough. My grandmother would bring in two small glasses. One with hot lemon juice and honey, the other, a shot of Jameson. My grandfather would say, "now take the two drinks your grandma gave ya, one in each hand son, throw the lemon juice and honey over your left shoulder, the one in your right hand down ye throat".

I wonder if our grandfathers were related... Whenever I'm ill the hot toddy has always worked its magic.

Originally Posted by Costa

You want motivation to quit?

My dad smoked Marlboros all throughout his service and most of his life.
He's now 6 ft under in Arlington.

Your call.

Yeppers, my dad started smoking in College in the 1930's. He quit in November 1979 when my mom was dx with Glaucoma. He smoked Menthol cigarettes until he discovered, "between the acts". Tiny cigarette sized cigars. He swore he did not inhale them..yeah right sure... he lies.. He died 12/25/1996 @ 5:10am. Diagnosis, Lung Cancer. Do the math between quit and death. Dad is at Busnell (fl) national cemetary in an urn. I miss him every day of my life.

My mom has a "smokers cough" from being around 2nd hand smoke all her life.

My dtr smokes Nat Sherman hint of mint. I tried them not bad..but not worth $9.85/pack. I cannot imagine paying what they do now for cigarettes, even at commisary prices.
YMMV
AM

[Buffalobob]

Twenty years quit. Definitely a security issue in a combat zone. I still have my Zippo from RVN . Its all engraved up like they all were. Maybe us FOGs should start an engraved Zippo picture thread. Of course one would need to figure out how to do the macro focus thing.

[alright4u]

Originally Posted by Gypsy

This is the only thing I'm qualified to respond to. I quit almost 2 years ago, and haven't wanted a smoke since. All I do is think of the money I save, not to mention the health benefits. Lastly, I never really knew how awful smoke smells on a person, until I quit. I can now smell smoke from great distances.

Here are my stats, if you want the program to put on your computer PM me. It keeps real time info from your quit date.

I agree. The key to quitting anything is to become sufficiently disturbed with yourself to quit and never go back. No one quits anything until they are ready to quit for themself. I damn sure was not going to pay for SCHIP.

[Buck]

I wonder......

I'm thinking of quiting sex, cold turkey, can you send me the clock for smokers, we'll see how it works.....lol

My clock could look something like this in the future;

Upside:
I have been sex free for 3 Year, 9 Months, 1 Week, 6 Days, 6 hours, 21 minutes and 21 seconds (1853 days). I have saved $232,286.42 by not having to have paid for 3,065 dinners. I have saved 20 years, 1 Month, 2 Weeks, 1 Day, 8 hours and 45 minutes of my life. My Quit Date: 3/30/2008 12:00 PM

Downside:
- Unfortunately the horror stories were correct, and I am now blind, and unfortunately my prick did fall off like my mother warned me as a child.
- Where I saved money on the dinners, I spent more on blowup dolls, DVD's and vaseline.

Buck

[ZonieDiver]

Buck - my coffee spewed on my laptop! You are one "sick puppy"! Thanks.

Originally Posted by Buck

I wonder......

I'm thinking of quiting sex, cold turkey, can you send me the clock for smokers, we'll see how it works.....lol

My clock could look something like this in the future;

Upside:
I have been sex free for 3 Year, 9 Months, 1 Week, 6 Days, 6 hours, 21 minutes and 21 seconds (1853 days). I have saved $232,286.42 by not having to have paid for 3,065 dinners. I have saved 20 years, 1 Month, 2 Weeks, 1 Day, 8 hours and 45 minutes of my life. My Quit Date: 3/30/2008 12:00 PM

Downside:
- Unfortunately the horror stories were correct, and I am now blind, and unfortunately my prick did fall off like my mother warned me as a child.
- Where I saved money on the dinners, I spent more on blowup dolls, DVD's and vaseline.

Buck

Originally Posted by alright4u

I agree. The key to quitting anything is to become sufficiently disturbed with yourself to quit and never go back. No one quits anything until they are ready to quit for themself. I damn sure was not going to pay for SCHIP.

I am sufficiently disturbed with both of you... I am beginning to worry about you two. Someone owes me a keyboard and a new cup of cofee.

MMmmmmmm, oh yeah, you two are both 'special'. That says it all.