07-21-2004, 11:45
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Here is where they have put it.
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07-21-2004, 12:24
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I've got an older version of this Gerber 600 that has a crimper located behind the joint though I wish it was in front of the joint in place of the cutter. Would make it more convenient.
http://www.gerberblades.com/products...php?model=7500
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07-21-2004, 12:27
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07-21-2004, 12:42
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Further searching led to this Multi-plier 600 DET
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Got one of the Gerbers.
Not a fan in practical use.
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07-21-2004, 13:36
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I was going to mention the Gerber and ask what you thought of it. Looks like that's done. I am paying attention here.
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07-21-2004, 13:38
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Bill, just curious, have you made a utility knife like the Leatherman before?
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07-21-2004, 13:42
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TR, What is the problem with the Gerber?
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07-21-2004, 13:42
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Bill, just curious, have you made a utility knife like the Leatherman before?
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No.
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07-21-2004, 13:55
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TR, What is the problem with the Gerber?
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Obviously, my needs are different and I'm not TR but as much as I like the overall usefullness of the tool I find that:
1. it's cumbersome to open with one hand
2. needs an awl type device
3. would rather have longer shanks for the screwdriver heads
4. I've also seen these types of knives with a small replaceable hacksaw blade.
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07-21-2004, 16:59
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Just a thought
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07-21-2004, 17:15
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TR, What is the problem with the Gerber?
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Poor design.
Poor quality materials.
Poor workmanship.
Foreign owned company.
Occasionally hard to open, even with gravity knife design.
Pliers pinch.
Blades are on inside, takes several steps to retrieve a blade.
Blades clump.
Pliers PINCH!
Very limited selection of blades.
Cheap steel
Blades do not lock.
PLIERS PINCH!!
That enough for starters?
If Tim ever responded, I would help him with more input to his product , but I suspect that I either scared him off or gave him a year's work in our last commo.
HTH.
Joe:
They would stick out when closed.
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07-21-2004, 17:16
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Who owns Gerber?
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07-21-2004, 17:18
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If you are trying to put it all in one knife I'd like to see it with a crimper that places a double crimp on a cap similar to the newer crimpers being fielded.
but having said that, and being a former 18C.......why not just carry a quality set of crimpers designed and used for its purpose and a sharp knife of your preference? I rarely use more than crimpers, a tape measure, and a knife on a demo range anyway..
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07-21-2004, 17:28
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Since one of their designers is not here to answer for himself, FISKARS!
The former Company leadership has a smaller competing firm now, IIRC.
Maybe someone will share details....
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07-21-2004, 20:21
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Correct answer Sir Reaper. Gerber is owned by Fiskars in Finland. Same country we get Suunto watches from.
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