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View Poll Results: How do you rack it?
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Slide release strong hand
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Over the top of the slide with weak hand
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Pinch grip the slide with weak hand
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Other (specify)
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Shutup Doc
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07-19-2004, 15:29
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Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Well, I think the slide release is faster.
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Then Why didn't you vote for it?
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07-19-2004, 15:34
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I haven't voted yet.
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07-19-2004, 15:36
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I haven't voted yet.
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Fair enough
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07-19-2004, 16:18
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Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Well, I think the slide release is faster.
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Are we voting on how we rack the slide on a fresh mag, not locked back, or are we voting on how we release the locked slide on a fresh mag?
I pull from the back, generally unless I have my weak hand occupied then I go for the slide release....
METT-T? 
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07-19-2004, 16:30
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release from locked back after a mag change.
You use METT-T to release your slide?
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07-19-2004, 16:32
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Sure, I have METT-T written on my glove in black marker.
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07-19-2004, 16:36
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Quote:
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release from locked back after a mag change.
You use METT-T to release your slide?
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Slide release, strong hand.
TR
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07-19-2004, 17:19
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Slide release, strong hand.
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Agreed, its the best method.
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07-19-2004, 17:31
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Sorry to nitpick, but the poll is poorly worded.
To "rack it," in my opinion, would be asking how you lock your slide to the rear, or how you cycle the slide to clear a stoppage.
I use weak hand, over the top, just like I was taught on the M1911 long ago at SOT.
To release the slide after dropping an empty mag and replacing it with a full mag, I hit the slide release with my strong hand, again, just as I was taught.
Funny.....thinking back on it, John Bone was running the joint back then. The next time that I saw him, he was the sergeant major at USAJFKSWC, or was it SOCOM? I forget. The poor guy was HATED.
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07-19-2004, 17:35
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Sorry to nitpick, but the poll is poorly worded.
To "rack it," in my opinion, would be asking how you lock your slide to the rear, or how you cycle the slide to clear a stoppage.
I use weak hand, over the top, just like I was taught on the M1911 long ago at SOT.
To release the slide after dropping an empty mag and replacing it with a full mag, I hit the slide release with my strong hand, again, just as I was taught.
Funny.....thinking back on it, John Bone was running the joint back then. The next time that I saw him, he was the sergeant major at USAJFKSWC, or was it SOCOM? I forget. The poor guy was HATED.
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Well, exxxxcccuuuusssseee me! LOL 
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07-20-2004, 03:40
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Well, I think the slide release is faster.
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Didnt read the ENTIRE forum. Push-ups done TS.
Normally I try not to lock out. I usually count my shots leaving one in the pipe then do a magazine change. If I do lock out then of course I would utilize the slide release. I was refering to a drill in the case of a malfunction. Sorry TS now can I have some of your popcorn
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07-20-2004, 08:06
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not to jump on anyone's reply......but a) isn't it a support hand, there should be no weak hands in shooting and b) anyway that keeps you in the fight that works for you everytime and then for the exception have that scenerio worked out so it becomes the 'everytime'
Just my 2 cents........
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07-20-2004, 08:09
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Slide release, strong hand.
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I know you guys aren't Glock shooters; but don't do this with a Glock it will break the slide stop leaver.
I would love to be able to use the slide release but being a lefty so I'm stuck with the weak hand rack.
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07-20-2004, 08:19
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Re: TS pushups Done and your pm is inbound
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Didnt read the ENTIRE forum. Push-ups done TS.
Normally I try not to lock out. I usually count my shots leaving one in the pipe then do a magazine change. If I do lock out then of course I would utilize the slide release. I was refering to a drill in the case of a malfunction. Sorry TS now can I have some of your popcorn
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I'm not the Team Sergeant, "just" the Senior Medic.
SWAT Surgeon - I agree, if it works, it works.
Joe - I haven't had any problems with that, or even heard of it. Not doubting your experience though.
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07-20-2004, 08:25
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A few notes here,
swatSurgeon, many techniques will work, some are just more efficient than others. While it might be nice to have both hands equal, there’s always going to be a “weak” hand.
Smoking Joe, I’d never slam a slide on an empty chamber, this can cause damage to a handgun, on the other hand, I always slam the slide shut with the slide release to load the handgun. This ensures proper bullet seating every time. If the gun cannot handle it, then its time for a new gun.
On proper gun handling never “ride” the slide forward when loading a round, this can cause the round not to seat properly. This also takes up waaaay too much time, time I’m not wasting in a gunfight.
Sorry to hear the lefty problems you’re encountering woth the Glock, I use HK USP’s for all serious work, and even if I were lefty everything on a HK can be switched to the other side. 
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