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Originally Posted by Richard
Astounding.
You forgot to use the pink text - I hope - otherwise you left off a few of the races of the ffolkes normally included under such 'pretty simple' thinking.
Richard
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Very Respectfully Richard I said nothing about, nor made any mention of or even the allusion to race what-so-ever. I spoke of country of origin alone, though one could extrapolate that to also mean religion within the context of my post and I'm ok with that, but not race as race has nothing to do with this discussion.
Now what I said was in the context of ideologies that hate the US, what it stands for, and that wish to see our and it's destruction. I have nothing against any race, religion, or nationality, so long as they want to peacefully coexist with us, if they don't want to peacefully coexist then I have sworn an oath to defend this nation from them. Some people may choose to believe the majority of Islam is not hostile towards the west, that is their right, I however do not necessarily hold that same opinion, and that is my right, as it is my duty to look for threats to the US. There are plenty of good Muslims who are peaceful, but it is nearly impossible to tell the difference between a good one and a bad one for the sake of this discussion. Those countries and/or the inhabitants of the countries I mentioned (and they're not the only ones by any stretch) have made it very clear by their actions that they do not wish to coexist with us. I maintain that we should not allow people to immigrate from countries who openly state they wish to see the west destroyed without extremely extenuating circumstances, and only then if the person can be reasonably determined to be of use to our country and not a threat.
From a failed nation state like Somalia, I would argue there are probably not
75 K people that fit the above description. Are there 75 K decent people in Somalia, I'm sure there are, I would hope that Somalis love their children the same way we do (though what I've seen of Muslims in the middle east does make me questions even that) the point is given their lack of education their potential to be useful as productive citizens is limited and the reality is we can't afford to take the risk to just let everyone in. Many of those people could be great Americans, maybe, but they could just as easily be great jihadists, and in a failed nation state like Somalia can we really do a thorough background check? If we're going out looking for poor, uneducated individuals to let into the country (which is what you're going to get out of Somalia predominantly) why not go looking in South America, at least then we have a better chance that they have not been indoctrinated by Radical Islam to blow themselves up once inside the country.
As I said before I would argue we should be allowing ONLY people who have skills we need into the US like doctors, nurses, priests, etc. I apologize if that sounds racist, or radical to you, but if you look at the immigration policies of many other countries, many only allow people in that they need, so why is it so bad if the US does the same?
Currently it appears to me we are allowing, if not encouraging our country to be invaded a little at a time, how long can we continue to do so before it's not our country anymore not to mention the terrorism threat inhearant to letting those people in? In times past immigrants came to this country to BE Americans, they came here to be a part of the amazing thing that is the United State, they assimilated and worked towards their dreams, and in doing so they strengthened this nation. I would argue that is no longer the case, if it were I wouldn't have to press 1 for English, and Mexico's 2nd biggest source of foreign capital wouldn't be remittance from the US (that's 2nd only to oil revenues by the way). People are coming here now to get what they can from the gravy train but have no loyalty to this country. That’s why we’ve seen an exodus of immigrants now that the jobs are drying up, why because they were never here for the long haul. If they were here for the long haul with our congress and president they wouldn't leave as they’re probably going to get amnesty and become citizens if they stuck around (that is if they choose to become citizens, which I am convinced most will not because then they would have to pay taxes)
So why are they leaving then? It's because they were never here for the right reasons to begin with IMO.
Just my .02
How many are collecting money from us because their unable to work? 
This has got to stop......
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