08-21-2009, 18:54
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MR,
Did iyou call the guys at Benning?
MEPS is not allowing any legal waivers at this time, or very few at least.
1) Things may open up in Oct, no promises
2) Call the guys at Benning, my understanding is that they are not a part of USAREC but directly under Assession Command and can play with the rules differently.
My belief is they really couldn't care less about some speeding offences when it come to Secret Clearance, but their hands are bound by the current hold on any legal waivers.
Call the guys at Benning and report back, you go in with an 11B Airbourne contract and they might be able to pick you uo during Basic. They have done this often before.
HTH
Scimitar
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08-21-2009, 20:23
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Is that a brown job from Wales?
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08-22-2009, 07:10
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Originally Posted by Scimitar
My belief is they really couldn't care less about some speeding offenses when it come to Secret Clearance, but their hands are bound by the current hold on any legal waivers.
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Security clearances are handled by OPM and yes they do care about repeat traffic offenses. Most everyone has received a speeding ticket at some point in their lives but to have many in a short amount of time shows a disregard for the law and considered a negative behavioral pattern.
Having spent a considerable amount of time in the S2 shop at SWTG(A) squaring mine away (dual citizenship) I saw quite a few candidates have their applications for a secret clearance denied for repeat traffic offenses, debt to income ratio issues, spousal issues...
Depending on the offense(s), date(s) of the aforementioned, and the disposition(s) it could be an issue.
Calling USAREC, AC, nor the SF Liaison at Benning will change the offense or how the adjudicating authority perceives it. But call away if you really think it will change things...
Again, MR, my advice to you is to take it one step at a time. Get in and then apply for SFAS, if thats what you still want to do. In the meantime you would do yourself well to stop speeding. This will put some space between the MR of today (obeying the law) and that of your past...
HTH,
Crip
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08-22-2009, 15:08
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Also, should I knock out my DLAB at the MEPS before I enlist, while waiting to ship, or should I do it in the Army?
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In my case, I was granted the 18X contract before taking the DLAB. However, in this scenario, one must take the DLAB within a specific time frame after their contract is approved. Simply taking the DLAB (not passing or failing) is required for the 18X contract. Your counselor at MEPS would inform you of this and usually schedule or have your recruiter schedule your test date after you sign (- no sense in taking a test that isnt needed!).
I would first worry about getting slotted for the 18X option before worrying about testing.
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08-22-2009, 16:04
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Thanks Cric for clearing that up.
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08-22-2009, 16:07
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Quote:
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Is that a brown job from Wales?
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Damn dialects!
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-- Phillip Brooks
"A man's reach should exceed his grasp"
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"Hooah! Pushing thru the shit til Daisies grow, Sir"
-- Me
"Malo mori quam foedari"
"Death before Dishonour"
-- Family Coat-of-Arms Maxim
"Mārohirohi! Kia Kaha!"
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08-25-2009, 18:39
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Hello Professional Soldiers and everyone else. Thank you for your service. Also, I appreciate the information your site provides and am thankful for the opportunity to be a part of and learn from it.
Would it be alright if i print this thread and take it to my recruiter? We are facing a similar issue with a shoulder that shows some arthritis and "degenerative changes". I have been evaluated by a civilian doctor and his evaluation has been at the processing station for about a month now. Last week I heard from my recruiter that it looks as if the best case scenario will be that I am allowed to join but not with the 18x contract. I have been trying to sign an 18x-ray contract since February and feel as if this information may be helpful. .
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09-01-2009, 11:50
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I consulted a lawyer that is familiar with the Security clearance appeal process. He informed me, that based on my description of events, the security interviewer BS'ed me about sending the SF86 to OPM; and for good reason. The lawyer said that I would likely have been denied, and clearance denial would stick with me and hinder my chances of obtaining a clearance in the future.
So I'll be going to old fashioned route to the SF as an 11-series recruit, however I do have 2 questions for the QP community here; I have already discussed my concerns with a SF recruiter at Bragg and at Benning, but before I discard my current life for one in the Army, I would like to be as sure as I can be...
1. I am entering the military with a medical waiver for kidney stones. Will that follow me around during my military career? Will it hinder my chances of being accepted to attend SFAS and Q?
2. I have a history of speeding tickets. having made a personal goal not to get any more moving violations from this point on, will I have a problem obtaining the necessary level of clearance for a career in SF 3 to 4 years from now?
Thank you for your input.
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09-01-2009, 12:21
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1. I am entering the military with a medical waiver for kidney stones. Will that follow me around during my military career? Will it hinder my chances of being accepted to attend SFAS and Q?
2. I have a history of speeding tickets. having made a personal goal not to get any more moving violations from this point on, will I have a problem obtaining the necessary level of clearance for a career in SF 3 to 4 years from now?
Thank you for your input.
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1. Not at all. there are plenty of guys with medical waivers who are in SF; I am one of them.
2. Shouldnt be if you stop getting tickets (ie:stop speeding.)
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09-01-2009, 14:46
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1. Not at all. there are plenty of guys with medical waivers who are in SF; I am one of them.
2. Shouldnt be if you stop getting tickets (ie:stop speeding.)
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Good to hear!
On a side note, I just received word that my Exception to Policy (ETP) for the Airborne stamp was approved!!!! So looks like I'll be attending MEPS with a nice 11x Option 4 contract waiting for me.
Thanks for the counseling gentlemen!
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09-01-2009, 15:33
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Speeding Tickets
Way back in 1964, I had a wreckless Driving Citation from the California Highway Patrol. It stayed with me the entire 8 years that I was in the Army.
It didn't stop me from obtaining a Top Secret Clearance, but every time that I had my clearance validated, it came up. Good luck.
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09-01-2009, 15:40
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Way back in 1964, I had a wreckless Driving Citation from the California Highway Patrol.
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I have to get one of those, it could come in handy.
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09-01-2009, 17:20
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I had speeding tickets and it never stood in my way eithor.......
Time will help and just slow down and keep your nose clean....
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09-01-2009, 17:34
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On a side note, I just received word that my Exception to Policy (ETP) for the Airborne stamp was approved!!!! So looks like I'll be attending MEPS with a nice 11x Option 4 contract waiting for me.
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You got your wish - the ball's now in your court. Good luck!
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10-20-2009, 19:49
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As has been mentioned previously, these Exception to Policy endorsements can be had, but it is up to you to "play Hardball" with the counselors at MEPS and make them submit the request.
Good times,
Blake
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