01-29-2004, 19:58
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Pattaya!!!
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Originally posted by DDD
Current:
SOG A Photo History
The Complete Far Side (2 volumes/18lbs of fun)
On Deck
Nada I'm going to Pattaya for 3 months!!
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01-30-2004, 13:18
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A new one just popped onto the radar:
Anti-Americanism, by Jean François Revel.
Here is the summary:
"Angered by the assault against a nation he knows and admires, the distinguished French intellectual Jean-Francois Revel has come to America's defense in "Anti-Americanism," a biting and erudite book that (paradoxically, given his country's specially vehement attacks on the U.S. and its policies) spent several weeks on top of France's best-seller list. Revel believes that what he calls the "anti-American obsession" is based on a willful disregard of the most obvious facts of American political and social life, its economic freedom and democratic traditions. He sees much anti-Americanism simply as anti-capitalism in disguise on the part of those--in Europe and the rest of the world--who are still committed to doctrines that are at heart illiberal and even totalitarian. In probing the origins of the notion that America is the source of all evil--imperialistic, greedy and ruthlessly competitive--he shows how these charges ultimately stem from weakness and envy on the part of those who make them and are a neurotic effort to find an easy explanation for Europe's own loss of status in the postwar era. As far as America's 'unilateralism' is concerned, Revel asserts that the U.S. is forced to act alone because Europe has repeatedly failed to act in the cause of collective security. As far as America's sins of "globalization" are concerned, Revel shows that the developing countries of the world want more, not less access to rich markets and corporate investment. Jean-Francois Revel explores the strengths of America and exposes the agendas of the anti-Americans in his own country, in Europe and around the world. Revel's clearheaded analysis of the protestors' motives shows what they're really marching for and what the world will lose if their anti-Americanism should ever take hold."
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01-30-2004, 13:49
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I know Revel's name but can't put my finger on why. What else has he written?
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01-30-2004, 14:28
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By Jean-Francois Revel:
Without Marx or Jesus
The Flight from Truth : The Reign of Deceit in the Age of Information
On Proust
The Totalitarian Temptation
How Democracies Perish
Collaborations:
The Monk and the Philosopher : A Father and Son Discuss the Meaning of Life
by Jean-Francois Revel & Matthieu Ricard
Vanished Civilizations
by Jean Paul Barbier & Jean-Francois Revel
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01-30-2004, 14:52
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Quote:
Originally posted by HQ6
By Jean-Francois Revel:
How Democracies Perish
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I think I either read this or read a second-hand description of it a long time ago. Don't remember anything specific about it, though.
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01-31-2004, 21:01
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I have trouble sitting down and reading books start to finish sometimes so books that are a series of essays work very well for me. Some that I have liked are: The Rehnquist Court: Judicial Activism on the Right editted by Herman Schwartz (2002), How Did This Happen? Terrorism and the New War editted by James F. Hoge, Jr and Gideon Rose, (2001), and the one I am currently reading is Defining a Nation editted by David Halberstam, (2003). It has an essay by Hal Moore that is particularly good.
I am also reading Sex & Power by Susan Estrich. So far I think it's pretty good, but it's not one that many men would care much for. The other three are ones that everyone might enjoy, however.
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02-02-2004, 13:42
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Currently reading Body of Secrets by James Bamford
Next on the list Puzzle Palace by the same author.
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Iraq was never lost and Afghanistan was never quite the easy good war. Those in the media too often pile on and follow the polls rather than offer independent analysis. Campaign rhetoric and politics are one thing - the responsibility of governance is quite another.
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02-02-2004, 15:08
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Quote:
Originally posted by AngelsSix
Currently reading Body of Secrets by James Bamford
Next on the list Puzzle Palace by the same author.
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Bamford has a new one coming out in April called A Pretext for War
9/11, Iraq, and the Abuse of America's Intelligence Agencies
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02-03-2004, 10:04
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Thanks! I am going to check that one out too......as soon as someone let's me know if it's worth reading!!
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The question is never simply IF someone is lying, it's WHY. - Lie To Me
We must always fear the wicked. But there is another kind of evil that we must fear the most, and that is the indifference of good men - Boondock Saints
Iraq was never lost and Afghanistan was never quite the easy good war. Those in the media too often pile on and follow the polls rather than offer independent analysis. Campaign rhetoric and politics are one thing - the responsibility of governance is quite another.
- Victor Davis Hanson
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02-08-2004, 14:57
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Quote:
Originally posted by CRad
I am also reading Sex & Power by Susan Estrich. So far I think it's pretty good, but it's not one that many men would care much for.
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Had her for crim in law school. I HATE her. Change the channel every time I see her ugly face.
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02-08-2004, 18:18
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Quote:
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Had her for crim in law school. I HATE her. Change the channel every time I see her ugly face.
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Aside from that, did you learn anything from her?
I had a Modern European Political Thought Prof that I felt exactly that same way about. The difference was he didn't show up on tv, Thank God. I took American Political Thought from him as well. Why? Because regardless of how I felt about him he taught the subject in a way that it stuck with you. I still hate him though. Too strong of a word, but a South Carolina drawl makes me twinge even now.
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02-08-2004, 18:25
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Quote:
Originally posted by CRad
Aside from that, did you learn anything from her?
I had a Modern European Political Thought Prof that I felt exactly that same way about. The difference was he didn't show up on tv, Thank God. I took American Political Thought from him as well. Why? Because regardless of how I felt about him he taught the subject in a way that it stuck with you. I still hate him though. Too strong of a word, but a South Carolina drawl makes me twinge even now.
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If she was a good teacher, I wouldn't dislike her so much.
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02-08-2004, 19:06
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Quote:
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Had her for crim in law school. I HATE her. Change the channel every time I see her ugly face.
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Reading her stuff has got to be better than listening to her.
I change the channel every time I hear her whiny, high-pitched, bitching, Yankee voice.
Like Carol Channing with PMS and huffing helium.
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02-08-2004, 19:42
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Quote:
Originally posted by The Reaper
Like Carol Channing with PMS and huffing helium.
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Nice Audio Image! I don't recall ever listening to her, but then my sister has a yappy pomeranian so maybe I have and didn't know it.
The book isn't too bad. I don't agree with everything she says but then why would I? She and I have nothing in common except being female. I don't even like her politics much. She worked for the Dukakis Campaign. Losing propositions may be romantic to some people; I think they are boring.
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02-08-2004, 20:04
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Quote:
Originally posted by The Reaper
Like Carol Channing with PMS and huffing helium.
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I feel a nightmare coming on.
So, CRad: do I really want to go out and find this book?
What's her thesis? 
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