09-17-2008, 12:03
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Has anyone used the Lifesaver Filter? It's stats are remarkable, so's that price.
This MSR unit is supposed to pump around a Gallon per minute. Haven't used it personally. I know this is getting away from the main thread of massive volumes of water but it would suffice for a smaller group. Price is better than the Lifesaver.
MSR WaterWorks Ceramic Filter
Was: $129.95
Now: $69.95
The MSR WaterWorks Ceramic removes more kinds of organisms without using added chemicals. It is the easiest filter to use and maintain. It is cost effective, too.
Removes 100% of bacteria and protozoa (like Giardia). Also removes many pesticides, industrial chemicals, and taste and odor compounds.
Features:
Relief Valve: Vents untreated water back out intake hose. Allows easier, more consistent pumping. Won't spray or leak untreated water.
Activated Block Carbon Inner-Core: Removes many chemicals, pesticides and other dissolved contaminants. Improves taste of water. Removes odors.
Adapter Base: Fits an MSR Dromedary Bag or Nalgene water bottle. Insures integrity of filtered water. Easy-to-use, efficient design. No accessory kit needed.
Opposing-Action Lever and Floating Piston: Easier to use than fatiguing "bike-style" pumps. Patented design.
Ceramic Filter Element: Fine .6 micron mechanical filter. Easy to clean, for superior recovery. Enhances filter longevity.
0.2 Micron Membrane Cartridge: Removes 100% of bacteria, regardless of concentration. Most effective portable treatment available, without adding iodine.
Field Maintainable: Lets you troubleshoot and maintain filter in the field. Replacement parts available, for ultimate longevity.
Weight 17.3oz/490g
Colour: Black
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09-17-2008, 12:20
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Sodium hyprochlorite, active ingredient in pool shock and bleach will purify water, vegetables and fruits. Water needs to have turbidity removed, a simple coffee filter can do that, then the sodium hyprochlorite is added. This is the same stuff municipal water departments use. Should be available.
Aeration/time will remove the chlorine. Also it is stabilizer in story water. Hydrogen peroxide will change the free chlorine to the chloride salt.
Probably the least expensive water sanitation method out there.
Will not remove chemicals, it just kills stuff in the water.
Filtration system also have to be maintained.
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10-04-2008, 13:54
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Just received this Link!! If it's already been brought up, then disregard!!
http://www.lapolicegear.com/steripen...purifiers.html
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12-14-2008, 17:32
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for what its worth ( i am currently in the amazon jungle (eugene oregon) writing this.) I am using various water sterilization chemicals as well as the msr ceramic filter,, the msr ceramic filter is very labor intensive and produces about a quart every 10 minutes. still occasionally get sick, but have cypro to counter act the worst of it..
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12-14-2008, 17:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xparallax
for what its worth ( i am currently in the amazon jungle writing this.) I am using various water sterilization chemicals as well as the msr ceramic filter,, the msr ceramic filter is very labor intensive and produces about a quart every 10 minutes. still occasionally get sick, but have cypro to counter act the worst of it.. 
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Well thanks BUT......... Re-Read your e-mail that you got when you registered.
Post your intro as your first Post in the appropriate place .  ....... Oh Shit you volated the first directive you were given. Work on your SA Please and follow the rules, this is not Miliatry.com.
Then Fill out your profile as required. YOu are not starting out very well. If this is hard you may not survive the Jungle...
After you do that read Search, and read some more.
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12-16-2008, 05:43
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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water purification
This might be an option..
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12-16-2008, 06:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lssah2025
This might be an option..
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Do you have some details??
I tried to zoom in and to see the filter material,, it appears they use a series of different size stones & sand??
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12-16-2008, 06:34
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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK
Do you have some details??
I tried to zoom in and to see the filter material,, it appears they use a series of different size stones & sand??
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Looks like the same concept I used but I did it with 35 and Gal PVC Barrels and PVC Pipe.
Sand, Rock, Charcoal, etc....
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12-16-2008, 06:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SF_BHT
Sand, Rock, Charcoal, etc....
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Then this is a filter system for sediment??
Or do the minerals(iron&copper&??) in the components to do a natural ionization/sterilization of sorts??
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12-16-2008, 07:00
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filtration
PM sent.
From what I understand good microbes start to grow in the sand and take about 3 weeks to fully multiply, then they eat the bad microbes in the dirty water and the 4 sediment filter system traps the other particulates.
A system like this is used in modern water purification in the US, but to a larger scale, and chlorine and fluorine is added to the end product before going out into the main lines..
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12-16-2008, 07:38
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Originally Posted by lssah2025
PM sent.
From what I understand good microbes start to grow in the sand and take about 3 weeks to fully multiply, then they eat the bad microbes in the dirty water and the 4 sediment filter system traps the other particulates.
A system like this is used in modern water purification in the US, but to a larger scale, and chlorine and fluorine is added to the end product before going out into the main lines..
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You are right and the final holding barrel gets chlorine to finish of any hearty bugs that make it through.
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12-16-2008, 08:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xparallax
for what its worth ( i am currently in the amazon jungle writing this.) I am using various water sterilization chemicals as well as the msr ceramic filter,, the msr ceramic filter is very labor intensive and produces about a quart every 10 minutes. still occasionally get sick, but have cypro to counter act the worst of it.. 
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I didn't know that Eugene, OR, US was a part of the Amazon jungle. C-ya. And have a very SF day.
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12-16-2008, 08:07
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
I didn't know that Eugene, OR, US was a part of the Amazon jungle. C-ya. And have a very SF day.
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Don't tell me that our SA challenged boy is in the US........
He has been chastised by me here, on the intro thread and now busted by you. I for-see a problem child.
Young man I would advise you to CONFESS NOW.
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12-16-2008, 08:07
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filtration
I guess if you wanted to improve the efficiency or purification process you could add a layer of charcoal, then take the water that you get out of this sand filter system and store it in another type of container. Add a little Chlorine or use a MCR or other filter and viola, hopefully you have a quick easy filtration system.. that will keep the GI bugs away...
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12-16-2008, 08:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SF_BHT
Don't tell me that our SA challenged boy is in the US........
He has been chastised by me here, on the intro thread and now busted by you. I for-see a problem child.
Young man I would advise you to CONFESS NOW. 
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Hey brother, idiot boy cannot answer, not here anyway, I banned his stupid self.
I tracked "it's" IP address with a few different IP trackers, all came back to Eugene, Oregon.
Idiot boy, this ain't military.com, or myspace, and we ain't that stupid. Don't bother sending me an email asking for forgiveness, it won't work.
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