01-31-2004, 14:44
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I have seen about twenty different books of SF, after the first one they are all redundant. This was exactly the type of detail I've been searching for. I'm looking forward to the next one.
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01-31-2004, 17:53
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Part Two
First, thank you for your comments. I'm currently working on finishing the second part. I'll try to tell the story of Phase II (Small Unit Tactics) and Phase IV (Robin Sage) once I edit some of it myself, and send it forth to "The Reaper" for a "once-over". Pending his authorizing it, it'll be published on one of the threads. I'm not currently planning on a Phase III (MOS Phase) monograph since I can only faithfully tell my own experience and, thus would end up leaving out the other MOS Phase III courses (and they are great stories themselves). I want to portray those parts of the course that are common to all candidates. Although, I'll be taking my orders from TR on this.
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02-01-2004, 12:52
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Basenshukai:
Just want to extend my thanks for putting pen to paper and allowing us a glimpse into what it takes (nowadays), to complete the process:
Good on ya:
Terry
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02-01-2004, 13:00
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Although, I'll be taking my orders from TR on this.
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A small but distinguished group of people have been saying that for almost a quarter century now; proud to say I'm one of them - welcome to the club. LOL
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02-03-2004, 00:24
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You are an excellent writer and I thoroughly enjoyed reading your experience.
I'd like to ask how long ago you completed the Q-Course - what was the time frame for each of the phases you are writing?
How long after your experience did you begin writing this ?
Thanks.
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02-03-2004, 14:57
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Timelines
Spartan: Specific info sent via PM
The Q Course itself was roughly as follows:
Phase II (SUT): 45 days
Phase III (MOS): 4 months
Phase IV (Robin Sage): 45 days
However, officers have to attend the six-month Infantry Captain's Career Course (a name I personally dislike) and Combined Arms Services Staff School (5 weeks). So, all totalled, to include time "already served" in SFAS (24 days), it looks like this:
SFAS: 24 days
ICCC: 6 months
CAS3: 1 month and 1 week
Phase II: 45 days
Phase III: 4 months
Phase IV: 45 days
Total: About 16 months.
Now, ICCC and CAS3 are not considered part of the Q Course. But, for O's, we can't get to the Q Course without those two courses. I believe Phase I and II have changed somewhat, so the times on here may no longer be correct.
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02-03-2004, 15:02
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LOL - I feel for you Captain. Try the Delta Course the old way. 3 PCS moves and 91B with AIT students first.
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02-03-2004, 15:03
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I thought he meant the year and rough time you went to the Phases, when you graduated, and when you wrote the stories with reference to attending the courses.
TR
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02-03-2004, 15:15
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Originally posted by The Reaper
I thought he meant the year and rough time you went to the Phases, when you graduated, and when you wrote the stories with reference to attending the courses.
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Roger that, TR. I sent him that specific info via PM. I wrote the first story roughly a month after SFAS. The rest, I wrote as the free time presented itself.
PS - Having a great time in SFAUCC. Last week we shot so much pistol that, at one point, many of us could not pull the trigger all the way due to muscle failure (and I personally shoot several hundred rounds per week at the "lodge" and "Jims" from my own 92G-SD). It's a great course that is also very humbling. Those instructors are top notch.
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02-03-2004, 17:39
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Basenshukai
Thank-you so much for writing that rare look from inside SFAS. As others have posted before me, I eagerly await the next installment.
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02-13-2004, 14:42
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Bas,
I dont want to intrude on a site for BTDTs, but i was just wondering how your shoulder has held up in SF after your experience in SFAS. I tore my labrum in high school and had it operated on. its 100% now, just wondering if youve had any other problems with it.
I, God willing, will be in SFAS around 2 years from now.
thanks
evgenii
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02-13-2004, 19:35
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Well done and well said Bas. Congrats to you!
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02-13-2004, 20:04
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whoops, i mean Bas, not TR.
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02-13-2004, 20:08
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You can edit your post.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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02-19-2004, 11:32
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Bas,
Much Appreciated.
SR (18x)
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