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Old 04-30-2004, 05:03   #16
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Old 04-30-2004, 05:58   #17
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Yes, as the weight comes off I'll increase his cardio. When he gets to 50 pushup/situp I want to start throwing the timer on him. He understands that those are minimums and he'll have to up the count if he wants to score good. After he drops another 20lbs I want him to start running.

We talked last night and he agreed that 4 months is pushing it. We'll keep the 4 month goal but reevaluate his status when the time comes.
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Old 05-03-2004, 21:17   #18
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Old 05-04-2004, 07:28   #19
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Tha Army max tonnage for him without a Tape Test is going to be much lower than the goal you have set.

He is going to have a very hard row to hoe to get fit and into SF at that height and weight.

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I have been thru this my entire career and was one of the things I really disliked about the military, not because of the health aspect but because of the mindset that in order to be a good soldier you had to look like a good soldier. Now I will admit, with the characteristics of my structure, on a good day I looked like a camoflaged duffle bag in my BDUs and when I had to wear blues or class A's I should have been required to wear the "This side toward enemy" warning stamped on my forhead because if anyone had slapped me on the back those brass buttons would have flown off my jacked. When they started putting height and weight on the efficiency reports it always got dicey for me because what folks pictured in their mind on the various boards we all went thru for career progression was not who I was. It got to the point where my commanders would have to include comments and remarks that stated the amount of weight I could lift, etc. I even had one flag officer make it his project to get me to meet his view of what he thought I should look like. I am 5'7 and a half, and have always been between 207 - 215 pounds while in the service. I never really considered myself short-just wound up tight. I cannot remember the number and variations of the APFT I have been thru nor the multitude of regulations as to height and weight but each event was a semi-annual ritual for the Army. I remember the pinch tests, the variations to the tape tests, etc and each time I came well under the requirement and always maxed the APFT. So I can empathize with the individual who does not fit comfortably into some height/weight chart that may or may have anything to do with his ability to do whatever it is he wants to do. But, as I can attest to, the military is very serious about height/weight and the interaction of these aspects as it affects your health and ability to perform. So, I would recommend that if this individual needs to lose weight and can lose weight he does so but I would establish the goals not only to meet the height and weight but also the incorporate the tape tests. You really do not want to put him into the same boat that some of us where in when the wrestling coach had us "wrestle down" a weight class where we also lost strength and endurance.

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Old 05-04-2004, 09:22   #20
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Sir, I feel a lot better - you and I share a common build.
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Old 05-07-2004, 19:35   #21
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Update

He's dropped 2 inches on the waist line as of today. Next weigh in is on wednesday.
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Old 07-17-2007, 00:50   #22
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Am I too heavy?

I did not know exactly where to post this question. I have looked around for a few hours and have not found a place where it really fits. Four months ago I weighed 270 lbs and I could not run a mile. I was not undisciplined, I played offensive tackle and I needed to carry that weight. I decided I wanted to join SF as an 18X and now I am down to 225 lbs and I was 15% body fat at MEPS. I scored a 280 on the PT test today and can run 6 miles in roughly 54 minutes. I have not platued in any part of my PT routine yet and I am not having any problems at my current weight, but I met a couple SF guys who told me to trim down to 200 lbs as a max. I do not leave until Oct 19 and if my training keeps progressing the way it has I should be between 315-325 on the extended PT scale and I should be able to run 6 miles in under 48 minutes. My question is should I lose more weight or would it be beneficial to carry a little extra into selection as long as it is not giving me problems and I can keep up physically?
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He's dropped 2 inches on the waist line as of today. Next weigh in is on wednesday.
Sir, how did this turn out for this person. In 2001 I dropped over 100 pounds in five and a half months to join the military. I went from a size 46 to a size 33 waist. I hope this turned out for this person. Even if it hasn't and you are still in contact with him? I would encourage him to look at being fit again. To be honest I lost sight of my goals and got fat again while in the military. Not a size 46 waist. However, I have lost 50 pounds in 6 months. The program I was using was pt everyday with 20-30 minutes of cardio, 3 sets sit-ups, 3 sets pushups, and a 1200 cal diet. Not as extreme but there are people in my battalion who hadn’t seen me in months that would walk right by me without a hello because of the weight loss.
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