04-14-2004, 15:52
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Bladesmith to the Quiet Professionals
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OK, busted. will return to smoke and sparks now. PS, cheating in this case would be acceptable.
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04-14-2004, 16:49
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Asset
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He wouldn't have to cheat right now Harsey, don't forget I'm lurching around with my melon in a brace. I'm even getting beat by the kids these days.....  It's a sad day in the house when the two year old can knock you to your knees.
Now you back to your sparks, I'll go back to my Rx.
CrashBurnRepeat
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04-14-2004, 17:12
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I know this is a foriegn concept to you CBR, but try to heal the first time. The first time I'd ever seen CBR, his horse had hurt a leg but CBR was packing him back to camp. CBR said he normally wouldn't have done that but since it was mostly downhill...
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05-01-2004, 00:54
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Not to dig up this semi-old thread, but the .22 rimfire subsonic loads are the way to go.
I have 3 high end air rifles, 1 in .177, 1 in .22, and the last one fires an odd 9mm pellet. The .177 is OK for pigeons and small rodents, and the .22 is good for some larger pests, but there is no comparison between a lightweight pellet traveling 800FPS and a projectile 3 times heavier traveling at 650-700FPS.
The air guns are actually suprisingly loud, louder than the report of the .22 Rimfire subsonics. The 9mm is even worse than a supersonic rimfire round. Plus with most high powered air rifles, quick follow-up shots are measured in 10's of seconds, as opposed to your typical bolt action .22 rimfire. Again, the 9mm is the exception because it uses a CO2 bottle and is lever action.
The higher end .177's from Beeman are nice air guns. I used to kill pigeons with 8.5 grain hollow points out past 80 yards from my back porch with no trouble (If you've ever tried to kill a pigeon with an air rifle, you'd appreciate how much of a feat this really is  )
Hope that helps.
Jason
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05-01-2004, 09:11
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Bravo1-3, Problem solved and I went with a new .22. Your right about the pellet rifles being loud, my neighbor who is 200 yds to the north uses one and I hear it often when he plunks a rodent. I have some of the sub sonic rounds but have just said to hell with the noise. A few nights ago I got into something that took all ten rounds of long rifle hollow points to stop. All hits, just no stopping power. (Team Sergeant, stop laughing!) I didn't know about the 9mm being loud, that would be fun to try.
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05-01-2004, 09:45
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bill Harsey
All hits, just no stopping power. (Team Sergeant, stop laughing!)
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Chuckle...chuckle ... chuckle..... LOL
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05-01-2004, 09:58
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Want a stopper for the 'coon charges?
12 Gauge Shotgun with #4 Buck.
I have a .375 H&H I could recommend, but the ammo is too expensive to waste on varmints.
TR
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05-01-2004, 10:29
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Right with you Reaper, Have brand new box of No. 4 shot on the bench now, am re-loading the 12 today. Guys, quit laughing, that 'coon was trying to climb my leg while I was putting bullets in it. He wasn't very happy and I almost ended up in the same thread as that guy who put the handgun round in his leg. Mr. 'coon had just finished tearing up another adult male 'coon on the roof over the bedroom. The noise brought me into this matter. These guys get into our chickens so they are not a protected species around here.
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05-01-2004, 10:35
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.375 H&H; slightly excessive, but i like it. Nothing quite like using a rifle designed to stop a 2000 pound buffalo on a less-than 20 pound animal.
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05-01-2004, 14:15
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22 lb.s, weighed, Sir.
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05-01-2004, 14:20
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My apologies for understimating such a fearsome adversary
seriously though, that's a lot of damage taken for a raccoon, I would expect it from an armadillo, but not a raccoon. Impressive little vermin.
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05-01-2004, 16:23
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I was thinking 44-40 or 45LC.
My .02 for mean critters under 100m:
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05-01-2004, 16:35
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Team Sergeant is getting old west on their asses
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05-01-2004, 17:39
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Please don't go pickin' on "old west" I like Team Sergeants idea a lot. I don't want a visit by an investigating officer about a stray round that did some damage two miles away. Those old rifles tend to fire everytime you pull the trigger and will hold more rounds than a lot of "post ban" weapons. Not much to go wrong with those old iron sights either.
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05-01-2004, 18:57
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Quote:
Originally posted by Air.177
.375 H&H; slightly excessive, but i like it. Nothing quite like using a rifle designed to stop a 2000 pound buffalo on a less-than 20 pound animal.
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Two more SF Maxims:
There is no kill like an overkill and
Anything worth doing is worth doing to excess.
TR
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