Storm Trooper gear..

[lksteve]

Originally Posted by pegasus

I sat on this for 24 hours to let objectivity and SA kick in...
The part I have a problem with is lumping everyone into the same swill water.

i believe the criminal negligence referred to the expenditure of funds...and notice, engineers, per se, were not singled out, but rather contractors...those of us who have had junk foisted on us by contractors are somewhat sensitive to these things...fifteen, twenty years ago, i had the opportunity to discuss some equipment mods with one of the contractor's designers, told him the problems we were having with the stuff in our application and was told it was never intended for that purpose...a lot of the time, folks in your shoes have no idea what folks in our shoes are told about the products we are asked to use...

Originally Posted by pegasus

I have rarely worked at an engineering company with "high morale".

same here...at some point in time, money takes over, while professional integrity is often asked to be put aside...thank God, i'm a surveyor (yes, civils have many of the same issues you face...the problem with engineers is that they understand numbers really well, but seem less receptive to ethical issues in other professions...)

Originally Posted by pegasus

I don't know where the flat-out stupid ideas originate nor how they get approved, but it appears to be a self-lubricating, self-propelling, oblivious-to-reason machine from my perspective.

well stated....

[MtnGoat]

Originally Posted by militarymoron

take a look at this harness:
http://www.ops-core.com/ACH_MICH_C5.cfm
i've tried out both the H and X harness prototypes for review - i installed them on a gentex TBH helmet. they use proprietary, specifically designed plastic adjustment hardware and they're the quickest, easiest harness adjustments i've seen, which you can do almost instantly. no velcro or loose webbing. it's also very comfortable. the company, ops-core works closely with the crye folk.
attached is a pic of the X-harness on my gentex.

A guy on my ODA got one of these GENTEX Helmets (don't know which harness) and he can't wear PELTOR Headsets with them!! The test phase need to test as many of the like items that a soldier will use or be mainly issued by the Army or his unit.

TR for POTUS!!! His a thinking man!!!

Originally Posted by lksteve

those of us who have had junk foisted on us by contractors are somewhat sensitive to these things...

I can understand that.

Originally Posted by lksteve

fifteen, twenty years ago, i had the opportunity to discuss some equipment mods with one of the contractor's designers, told him the problems we were having with the stuff in our application and was told it was never intended for that purpose...a lot of the time, folks in your shoes have no idea what folks in our shoes are told about the products we are asked to use...

That is true.


Thanks

[militarymoron]

Originally Posted by MtnGoat

A guy on my ODA got one of these GENTEX Helmets (don't know which harness) and he can't wear PELTOR Headsets with them!! The test phase need to test as many of the like items that a soldier will use or be mainly issued by the Army or his unit.

were they the comp-tac peltors? the slim peltor tac-6 and my sordins fit under the gentex with the gentex and ops-core harness. no room for anything bulkier, though.

[Razor]

Having been a defense contractor (although at service component/Combatant Command level) for just shy of a decade, I'd like to present one other very significant thing to consider in project development--the ever present customer requirements shift. Folks here may remember a year, year and a half ago reading or hearing about a contracting company losing a huge intelligence satellite contract due to being years overdue and billions over budget. The flip side to the story is that the project was initiated over a decade ago, and in that time technology improved by leaps and bounds. With every spiral delivery of the product, the customer (military and GS decision makers) would say "hey, add this feature", which of course in turn added development time and cost. The contractor would point out these problems, but the customers insisted. Add up enough of these "mission creep" requirements, and only a fool would expect something to be on time and within budget. I've personally seen the exact same thing in milcon contracts in two separate, $25+ million buildings in which I was involved. "Hey, move that 5000sqft room from this side of the building to the other side." "How about we add two more bathrooms to this floor?" "We need NIPR/SIPR/RELCAN available at every workstation." "I don't want that elevator that close to the general's office."

Now I'm sure at the individual soldier equipment level these problems aren't as large in scope, but I'm certain they're present none the less. One only need to look at the H&K Mk23 and the Gregory/Bianchi BALCS ruck for shining examples of projects overseen by too many cooks.

[jatx]

Originally Posted by militarymoron

take a look at this harness:
http://www.ops-core.com/ACH_MICH_C5.cfm

Thanks, I'll check it out!

[militarymoron]

inital writeup and pics of the Ops-Core harness:
http://www.militarymorons.com/equipm...r.html#opscore

username and password are both 'mm' to view larger pics.