08-17-2006, 18:54
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Originally Posted by kgoerz
But you lost me in this thread.
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If I did that by hijacking your thread, I apologize!
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08-17-2006, 18:57
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Originally Posted by x_sf_med
LTs - no fun, easy targets. IF they're ring knockers, they might offer a little challenge... (no offense to any QPs, we would only harm leg LTs on this site)
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Pretty tough crowd here. Remember LTs grow up to be folks with Summary, Special and General Courts-Martial convening authority so if you shoot it you better kill and eat it. 
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08-17-2006, 19:21
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Targets
What have I started, let’s talk about right to life next..........Just want any metal target ideas. Nothing beats direct feed back when shooting Steel. Paper targets definitely are necessary but you can't beat plinking Steel
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08-17-2006, 19:29
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Originally Posted by Jack Moroney
Remember LTs grow up to be folks with Summary, Special and General Courts-Martial convening authority so if you shoot it you better kill and eat it
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amen...speaking as a fromer Summary Courts-Martial Judge/Jury/Defender/Prosecutor...and the administrator of many Article 15s, including one for Article 134, to wit, abuse of a public animal...
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08-17-2006, 19:39
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Originally Posted by kgoerz
What have I started, let’s talk about right to life next..........Just want any metal target ideas. Nothing beats direct feed back when shooting Steel. Paper targets definitely are necessary but you can't beat plinking Steel
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Let's build a tricky.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
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08-17-2006, 19:45
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Pretty tough crowd here. Remember LTs grow up to be folks with Summary, Special and General Courts-Martial convening authority so if you shoot it you better kill and eat it.
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Didn't they replace all LT'S with former NCO'S and call them warrants.........Sorry couldn’t resist. I agree with the other threads, doing away with the LT'S on A Teams was a bad move. Any ideas for Steel Targets out there by the way.
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08-17-2006, 19:48
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Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
Let's build a tricky.
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Here's one...
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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08-17-2006, 20:45
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Originally Posted by kgoerz
Didn't they replace all LT'S with former NCO'S and call them warrants.........Sorry couldn’t resist. I agree with the other threads, doing away with the LT'S on A Teams was a bad move. Any ideas for Steel Targets out there by the way.
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uh, some LTs were former NCOs, BTW...
as far as steel targets go, what range, what caliber and how much excitement...?
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08-17-2006, 20:47
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Originally Posted by kgoerz
I was going to put Gravel under it for a base...........
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why not have a hole in each of the horizontal ground supports and use a forming spike to secure it...?
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08-18-2006, 08:52
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Steel Targets...
I really like these made my MGM...you hit the popper, it falls and launches a clay pigeon, LT, whatever you have sitting on the back...doesnt look like it would be too hard to make a simple version of ....great for shotgun work.
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08-18-2006, 09:07
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NDD,
Next time you build a plate rack you might want to incorporate "random".
Next time you build you might place the plates at varying widths and lengths.
Bad guys do not line up "dress right dress". 
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08-18-2006, 10:11
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Originally Posted by kgoerz
Didn't they replace all LT'S with former NCO'S and call them warrants.........Sorry couldn’t resist. I agree with the other threads, doing away with the LT'S on A Teams was a bad move. Any ideas for Steel Targets out there by the way.
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Here is one my father and I built. Shooting Steel Thread
The steel is cut into a siloutte. The head has a 2 inch circular hole with a 3/4 inch steel flapper behind the hole. The body has a 4 inch circular hole with a 3/4 inch steel flapper behind it.
So when shot correctly it gives you a distinctive ping. When shot incorrectly you get a distinctive splat.
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08-18-2006, 17:35
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NQUOTE]ext time you build a plate rack you might want to incorporate "random".
Next time you build you might place the plates at varying widths and lengths.
Bad guys do not line up "dress right dress".[QUOTE]
The Plates are easily removed to place in other places/positions and can be adjusted left and right and painted different colors.
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08-18-2006, 19:04
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The Plates are easily removed to place in other places/positions and can be adjusted left and right and painted different colors.
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I think it is a great job. I had the Brigade buy a bunch of steel targets from MGM but the Brigade had money due to OIF. I think we bought a good $60K worth of steel from MGM over about 18 months time. More than enough to keep twelve sniper teams occupied without having to shift steel around a range. I got a mix of full size IPSC, IPSC Classic, IPSC Flag, 12, 8, and 6 inch auto poppers. Also some Pepper Poppers that pull a cardboard IPSC over when they go down. We have blasted these targets with everything from SAWs through the M-24. I will say that the MGM stuff holds up very well.
You are getting the same result as a auto popper and I bet the cost for your rack is less than the cost of one 12 inch auto popper.
We have gotten some very good results from the MGM IPSC 'Flag' target. Guys love to work that target at range so you may want to take a look at the MGM web site and I bet you can fabricate something very similar.
I am a big believer in steel ranges. Time consuming to set the steel in but they really motivate guys.
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08-18-2006, 19:14
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I think it is a great job. I had the Brigade buy a bunch of steel targets from MGM but the Brigade had money due to OIF. I think we bought a good $60K worth of steel from MGM over about 18 months time. More than enough to keep twelve sniper teams occupied without having to shift steel around a range. I got a mix of full size IPSC, IPSC Classic, IPSC Flag, 12, 8, and 6 inch auto poppers. Also some Pepper Poppers that pull a cardboard IPSC over when they go down. We have blasted these targets with everything from SAWs through the M-24. I will say that the MGM stuff holds up very well.
You are getting the same result as a auto popper and I bet the cost for your rack is less than the cost of one 12 inch auto popper.
We have gotten some very good results from the MGM IPSC 'Flag' target. Guys love to work that target at range so you may want to take a look at the MGM web site and I bet you can fabricate something very similar.
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I will check them out, thanks. All I like to shoot at home is steel.
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