05-12-2006, 15:08
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Ironically I got this article in an email today:
TSA detains Marine escorts
Trio escorting body of fallen comrade are stripped of dress blue coats, searched at airport
http://www.marinetimes.com/story.php...25-1755845.php
The obvious follow up:
TSA erred in delaying fallen Marine’s escorts
Military escorts have special screening rules, says TSA
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/stor...25-1761087.php
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05-12-2006, 17:55
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I want somebody's ass fired.
Not reprimanded, not retrained.
Fired.
If you jack around with one of my soldiers in uniform who is on orders, especially escort orders, firing would be the very least problem that you had.
TR
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05-12-2006, 18:36
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USMC Escorts
"It seems “miscommunication” is to blame for last week’s security mix-up that delayed a trio of leathernecks escorting the body of a fallen Marine through the Philadelphia airport."
Miscommunication my ass!
TSA = "Thugs Standing Around". This is what several airline pilots in my unit call them.
If the Marines didn't know of the special rules, why didn't TSA, when told by the Marines that they were escorts, tell them, "Hey guys, we have a special procedure for you. Follow me." instead of jacking them up at the checkpoint like they were Joe Tourist.
Wholesale Crucifixion without wood or nails is needed for the TSA people.
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05-12-2006, 18:56
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More examples of "miscommunication"
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05-13-2006, 19:03
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Last time I flew out of DIA, when I got in the line where they check your picture ID against your ticket to make sure that the name on the ticket and ID match, the early-20s something Ethiopian dude made sure my name matched, but never once did he look at my face and make sure I was the guy whose picture was actually on the ID. For all practical purposes, I could have been a 6'4" 220# black man, with brown hair and eyes, instead of a 5'7" 190 white dude with brown hair n blue eyes. He was covered because the names matched tho. You really can't make this stuff up, ya know??!!??
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05-17-2006, 18:37
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1. A security supervisor at DFW asks my wife to test the screener by carrying this large wooden revolver covered in heavy foil in her purse. She said the barrel was about 2" in diameter. They kept missing it and the supervisor kept saying " run it through again!". They spotted it the third time.
2. At Love Field in Dallas I forgot about a 5" Tanto Voyager in the bottom of a soft briefcase. Ran it through and nothing happened. Was digging through the briefcase after landing and there it was at the bottom along with 3 RBCD .223 brass.
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05-17-2006, 20:02
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Originally Posted by dr. mabuse
1. A security supervisor at DFW asks my wife to test the screener by carrying this large wooden revolver covered in heavy foil in her purse. She said the barrel was about 2" in diameter. They kept missing it and the supervisor kept saying " run it through again!". They spotted it the third time. |
???????? Am I missing something here? Is your wife a civilain who was just there to take a flight? Whats with the wooden gun covered with foil??
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05-17-2006, 20:14
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Originally Posted by dr. mabuse
1. A security supervisor at DFW asks my wife to test the screener by carrying this large wooden revolver covered in heavy foil in her purse. She said the barrel was about 2" in diameter. They kept missing it and the supervisor kept saying " run it through again!". They spotted it the third time.
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I think that the answer to that request is "No, thank you."
TR
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05-17-2006, 20:41
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I want somebody's ass fired.
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shot would be a suitable alternative...
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05-18-2006, 13:03
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She was just a civilian there to take a flight...... 
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05-20-2006, 20:20
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My wife is an employee of a large west coast fire dept.
She was traveling via commercial airline to Southern Calif. for fires last summer in uniform, when she was required to remove her badge, collar brass and metal name tag as well as her 10" tall wildland boots for the TSA mouth breathers.
I suppose evil doers could disguise themselves as a burned out somewhat cranky fire captain going to sabotage the efforts of fire control folks on a big 'ol brush fire.
Her laptop computer and small Leatherman tool on her belt were passed without a glance.
Ah, yes...post 9-11 travel and all of the special little joys.
I agree with others that the labor pool is murkey at best, which would explain
much of the little mrs. experence.
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05-21-2006, 12:58
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You get what you pay for.
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05-21-2006, 13:05
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Funny you should say that. Two years ago, I saw two TSA baggage handlers in the Yuma airport (which probably gets what, ten flights per day?) rooting through bags. One said to the other one, Can you believe that we get $38 per hour for doing this? That is the only reason I moved here from Boston!"
Seems like they were being compensated pretty well for digging through your skivvies.
TR
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05-24-2006, 18:53
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I'd like to know what some of the members think about rasical profile...not to be political, but i i dont mind security watching a Middle Eastern over a 65yr old...even though both could very well be lethal.
I heard that it's easy to spot "undercover" security on planes...they are the first on the plane and in suits all the time.
Wouldn't it help if they were in street cloths and got on the plane spraditcally?
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05-24-2006, 20:01
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Originally Posted by SpartanWrestler
I'd like to know what some of the members think about rasical profile...not to be political, but i i dont mind security watching a Middle Eastern over a 65yr old...even though both could very well be lethal.
I heard that it's easy to spot "undercover" security on planes...they are the first on the plane and in suits all the time.
Wouldn't it help if they were in street cloths and got on the plane spraditcally?
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Not sure what the definition/meaning of the following are, but I will have a few comments following:
rasical profile
spraditcally
Regardless of the meanings, we will not discuss, nor speculate on TTPs that are of a National Security Nature!!!
If you do not comprehend any of the above I VERY highly suggest that you refrain from POSTING and remain as a LURKER for, lets say, about 90 DAYS!!!
You do not wish to be made an EXAMPLE of in here!!!
This is the REAL WORLD!!!
Have a VERY SF DAY!!!!
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