02-02-2007, 03:50
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Yarborough?
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Originally Posted by mike-munich
As I told 12B4S a while ago, I had my Yarborough turned into a 1/10 commemorative knife to honor the Groups presence in Bad Tölz when I worked with them back in the old days.
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I notice you do not currently have the QP title assigned-is your knife a Yarborough or is it a Green Beret?
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02-02-2007, 04:21
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Originally Posted by Eagle5US
I notice you do not currently have the QP title assigned-is your knife a Yarborough or is it a Green Beret?
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Eagle,
it´s a Green Beret. I would love a serialed one, but do not qualify for it. Hence the "commemorative version".
This is the one that was presented to me by the team along with a Green Beret at Flint Kaserne when 1st Bn. left for Panzer:
Mike
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02-02-2007, 09:04
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Originally Posted by mike-munich
As I told 12B4S a while ago, I had my Yarborough turned into a 1/10 commemorative knife to honor the Groups presence in Bad Tölz when I worked with them back in the old days.
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Mike, I hate to say it, but I find your copy of a Yarborough knife way too close to an attempt to counterfeit the real thing.
This is disappointing to me. I am sure that LTG Yarborough would NOT be impressed.
TR
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02-02-2007, 09:29
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Bladesmith to the Quiet Professionals
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Originally Posted by mike-munich
As I told 12B4S a while ago, I had my Yarborough turned into a 1/10 commemorative knife to honor the Groups presence in Bad Tölz when I worked with them back in the old days.
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Mike-munich, As per orders from United States Army Special Operations Command written to govern the Yarborough Knife Project, the ONLY knives that can be marked "Yarborough" are to be sold or issued to United States Army Special Forces personnel approved by United States Army Special Operations Command, in Ft. Bragg NC.
The engraved name "Yarborough" will remain unique to these knives issued or sold by USASOC to the vetted members of Army Special Forces that have earned the right to wear the Green Beret.
Edited to add: I have to strongly protest the engraving of the name Yarborough on this knife. We would NEVER engrave any knife with that name that wasn't ordered from us by USASOC. That engraving needs to be removed or the knife destroyed.
William W. Harsey, Designer of the Yarborough knife.
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02-02-2007, 11:34
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Mike-
I wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Harsey remove the engraving or destroy the knife. I am a QP, I missed my chance at a Yarborough, I bought a GB, and would never think of engraving it, I had Mr. Harsey sign the blade instead.
Should I get another chance at procuring a Yarborough, I will take it, but I would never 'embellish' a knife with an unauthorized imprint that so closely resembled an earned item.
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02-02-2007, 11:52
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Mike-
I can appreciate your service to 1/10. Though your intention may have been good, what you have done instead is both very wrong and quite disrespectful. The knife should be indeed either be destroyed or the engraving completely removed.
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Ain't no one getting out of this world alive. All you can do is try to have some choice in the way you go. Prepare yourself (and your affairs), and when your number is up, die on your feet fighting rather than on your knees. And make the SOBs pay dearly."
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02-02-2007, 12:22
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Gentlemen,
I´m sorry that my idea of having a commemorative blade seems disrespectful to you. I didn´t mean to produce a counterfeit copy (I would have put on a serial number then. Instead I just marked it with the Groups designation).
I did not mean to insult neither any of the QP´s, nor Mr. Harsey. I would have loved his signatur on the knife instead too.
Unfortunately the piece is too expensive to be destroyed. I will have the lettering removed instead and put a new coating on it.
Again, please accept my apologies. I will make sure the engraving is removed a.s.a.p.
Good man. Everyone can make a mistake, real men own up to them.
TS
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02-02-2007, 12:35
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Good plan Mike, and good response.
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02-02-2007, 12:38
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Thanks Mike, knew you were a good man.
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02-02-2007, 12:53
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Thank you for your understanding and accepting my apology Gentlemen. And for your trust and support. This is exactely how I remember the QP´s in Tölz.
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02-02-2007, 13:24
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Mike-munich,
Thank you. I've been thinking how to help carefully change the engraving, let me run this by you:
Try getting a machinist or perhaps even the engraver to use a square bottom carbide cutter and lightly mill the smallest possible rectangle at the least amount of depth that just takes away the lettering in question.
Do not remove the other mark, if you want.
In this new field, use it to place another engraving that would be appropriate to your experience with these men, perhaps using two lines of text like this,
"United States Army Special Forces"
"date, place etc."
Now whatever is engraved in that place will be framed and look right.
Feel free to show us when it's done.
Thanks,
Bill
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02-02-2007, 13:38
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Mr. Harsey, Sir,
thank you very much for the input. I´m sure the guy that helped me with the current unauthorized engraving will have the tool you mentioned.
If this is approved by the QP´s on this board, as well as by you, I´d like to put the following on there:
"US Special Forces Support 1/10 SFG"
I´d be happy to post the photos of the changed blade.
Thank you again Sir,
Mike
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02-02-2007, 14:00
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Mike,
Sounds good to me and I'm pretty sure the QP's will agree. That would be a unique and classy engraving on your knife.
If this is the case, you might want to consider moving the rectangle out to re-do the entire field "new".
I'm also guessing this might take a couple carbide cutters as the CPM S-30V contains enough vanadium carbides to be kinda difficult to machine easily but your not removing very much material.
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02-02-2007, 14:05
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Hey Mike-
Your response was quite refreshing. Thank you.
Please accept my wish for the absolute best of luck with your revision. If you would be kind enough to post what your "new" blade looks like on completion, I would certainly be interested in seeing it.
v/r
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Ain't no one getting out of this world alive. All you can do is try to have some choice in the way you go. Prepare yourself (and your affairs), and when your number is up, die on your feet fighting rather than on your knees. And make the SOBs pay dearly."
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02-02-2007, 17:37
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This conundrum with Mike has brought me to ask a question of my own. I am a support guy in 3rd Group, and own a "Green Beret" knife that my wife bought for me at Christmas a few years ago. When I go to Afghanistan, will it be wrong to take my Green Beret knife (everybody wants a "cool knife", whether or not it is used)? I just want to avoid any questions.
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