08-02-2004, 12:05
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Does that indicate that you suggest refrigerated batteries have a longer shelf life?
I was taught that cold unloads batteries, which is why in arctic environments you are supposed to take them out of your tractor and dig them a hole which you isolate and then cover.
That is according to the Swedish mil, but I've heard elsewhere to put them in a refrigerator.
A certain temperature range, perhaps?
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Yes, refrigerating "Dry Cell" batteries radically extends their Shelf Life. All batteries have a certain amoiunt of "electrical leakage" in them, coupled with the normal chemical reaction betwen the various compounds that they are made from will limit their useful life. Note, "Refrigerate", not FREEZE !!! I'll look up some data on Shelf Life Extensions for "Nicad" cells that we use and post it later.
Now on a vehicle battery, they are "wet cells" and they will really suffer if subjected to extreme freezing conditions.
Also, when any of the batts have been subjected to cold, they should not be used untill they return to normal operating temperature.
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08-02-2004, 12:16
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For rechargeable Nicads:
SHELF LIFE 30 DAYS FROM CHARGING DATE AT AMBIENT TEMPERATURE OR 120 DAYS IF STORED BETWEEN 32 AND 41 DEGREES F.
This is from one of the Nicad Batt Manufacturers that we use.
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08-02-2004, 12:28
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Thanks AM!
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08-02-2004, 14:52
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Group buy price estimate?
I am in for (2)two if the price is right. 
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08-06-2004, 12:55
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From the pictures on Surefire's site, the switch plate looks almost identical to the Streamlight/ITI M series. I had an M3x rifle mounted in Iraq. *If* the Surefire switch plate is of the same construction, they will break if you do anything resembling vehicle operations. My bottom tab went first, then the top (it'll be sideways on a rifle). If it wasn't for the backup tape switch I brought, I'd have been SOL. If the tabs are plastic and attached to a thin, rectangular metal rocker switch, be wary.
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08-06-2004, 21:46
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reaper,
SWEET pistol! here's a pic of my custom P14.45 signature model with GG&G rail installed.
cheers,
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08-07-2004, 04:15
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*If* constructed the same as ITI, this can happen:
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08-07-2004, 07:53
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Not the same switch.
The X200A uses a rocker on either side of the battery compartment. Forward pressure activates momentary, rotation activates constant on.
The other X200 model uses a tape switch which goes under the trigger guard.
Will have to take a pic later.
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08-16-2004, 07:57
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So, where are we on the handgun lights?
I found this online with my googleFU. I know nothing about this company. Can this price be beat by anyone's contact on the group price?
$189.00 http://www.botac.com/surefirex200.html
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08-16-2004, 09:25
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You may want to give these guys a call:
http://www.shomertec.com/contact.cfm
They don't list that light in their catalog, but they may have them. Their prices have been very competitive in the past for me.
Take care.
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08-16-2004, 09:39
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Gentlemen:
RE the add on rails, I've heard that they tend to work their way loose. What is your experience with this?
I plan on buying a 5" 1911 (for 3 gun comp. and home defense, hence the light) either with an integral rail or adding a rail onto a non-railed weapon.
The price difference can be significant, hence my interest in the add on rails.
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08-16-2004, 09:47
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So, where are we on the handgun lights?
I found this online with my googleFU. I know nothing about this company. Can this price be beat by anyone's contact on the group price?
$189.00 http://www.botac.com/surefirex200.html
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Botach has a VERY checkered rep, and I would exercise lots of caution in dealing with them. Caveat emptor.
As far as the rails working loose, the Caspian puts the screws inside the dustcover to increase the contact area. I also asked my 'smith to Black Loctite the screws and JB Weld the rail on as well. Some are actually welding the rails onto the pistols.
As an aside, I do not think that you can mount the rail on an alloy framed gun, or a 1911 with less than a 4" barrel.
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08-16-2004, 10:26
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Thanks for the rep advisory TR
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As an aside, I do not think that you can mount the rail on an alloy framed gun, or a 1911 with less than a 4" barrel.
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If that was for me, it is not intended for my Kimber Sir.
I would like one for a different personal weapon. The second one was for my brother as a present. He just got one of those .40 SW99's.
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08-16-2004, 10:28
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Quote:
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As far as the rails working loose, the Caspian puts the screws inside the dustcover to increase the contact area. I also asked my 'smith to Black Loctite the screws and JB Weld the rail on as well. Some are actually welding the rails onto the pistols.
As an aside, I do not think that you can mount the rail on an alloy framed gun, or a 1911 with less than a 4" barrel.
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Roger that. Thanks for the information, TR.
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08-18-2004, 13:17
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Hey Sir,
I wonder if they have one for Glock 23 or 19. I would definately be interested.
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