01-30-2009, 09:56
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I'm betting Benicio Del Toro and the writers, producers, etc will portray che's final moments as they really occurred, screaming, peeing his pants, attempting to sell out and begging for his life. 
Che Guevara the sniveling coward.
Team Sergeant
We need to do some of our own che tee-shirts......
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01-30-2009, 10:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
I'm betting Benicio Del Toro and the writers, producers, etc will portray che's final moments as they really occurred, screaming, peeing his pants, attempting to sell out and begging for his life.
Che Guevara the sniveling coward.
Team Sergeant
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TS...only if you were the one making the movie!!
T-shirts? Novel idea! 
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01-30-2009, 10:16
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
We need to do some of our own che tee-shirts......
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If I may suggest:
"Che’s not only merely dead,
Che’s really, most sincerely dead!
Pat
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01-30-2009, 11:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
I'm betting Benicio Del Toro and the writers, producers, etc will portray che's final moments as they really occurred, screaming, peeing his pants, attempting to sell out and begging for his life.
Che Guevara the sniveling coward.
Team Sergeant
We need to do some of our own che tee-shirts...... |
this site has a nice one that I like... my birthday is in July!
http://www.blackfive.net/main/blackfive-gear.html
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A tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny ~ Aesops Fables; The Lamb and the Wolf
Am fear nach gleidh na h-airm san t-sith, cha bhi iad aige 'n am a' chogaidh
"He that keeps not his arms in time of peace will have none in time of war" Old Gaelic
Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property... Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them. Thomas Paine
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01-30-2009, 12:18
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
I'm betting Benicio Del Toro and the writers, producers, etc will portray che's final moments as they really occurred, screaming, peeing his pants, attempting to sell out and begging for his life.
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Sounds like a Great moment in History to me! 
In fact, that just made my day reading it! Good Job Men!
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01-30-2009, 13:28
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The issue of Che's cult status and the use of his image as pop iconography is irritating to all of those who are educated enough to know what he was about and what he did. I find that it is especially frustrating here in a University environment where kids are wearing his image because they think it looks cool. They will freely condemn, vilify, and characterize our former President as a murderer and American despot (again because they don't know better and it is the popular thing to do to seem deep and brilliant) but will then wear paraphernalia that celebrates a man who murdered with his own hands and whose only real interest in life was rocking the boat to cause chaos, death, hate, and destruction. I apologize but it is hard sometimes being so frustrated and ashamed of the soft, trendy, and uneducated nature of my generational peers. We are truly a me generation and an uninformed one at that. Maybe next we will see kids rocking shirts with Pol Pot, or Stalin, or Franco, or maybe even someone like Himmler. Can't wait! Sometimes standing against the tide of ignorance really makes you appreciate environments where people know that the real world is often a violent place where bad people do bad things, and that sometimes our world here in the US is false but it is still up to those who know to protect those who don't want to. Hey kinda like you guys.
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01-30-2009, 15:00
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Anyone here remember back in 1982 the picture of che that hung on the wall just outside of 1SG Fontana's office at 3rd SF Training Company? I always wanted to ask why a commie's picture hung on the wall, but as 1SG Fontana was prone to fits of rage-filled outbursts in a thick Brooklyn accent, I thought it best to keep my ponderings to myself.
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01-30-2009, 16:07
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Nothing but agreement here.
PSM that's a real T-Shirt photo. Team SGT am I misinformed or was not the guy that put the bullet in che's head was a SF Team Ldr (CPT) Just a rumor from way back when I was in the 7th. But it seems the Cpt was from the 8th. Anybody?
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01-30-2009, 16:24
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PSM that's a real T-Shirt photo.
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I made that one and the slogan about three years ago.
I lost my Photoshop in my last computer meltdown. If someone wants to put it back together and put on Cafe Press for ps.com, it's fine with me.
Pat
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"The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress." -- Frederick Douglass
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01-30-2009, 19:40
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PSM that's a real T-Shirt photo. Team SGT am I misinformed or was not the guy that put the bullet in che's head was a SF Team Ldr (CPT) Just a rumor from way back when I was in the 7th. But it seems the Cpt was from the 8th. Anybody?
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Executed by the indig, actually, I think the third they sent into the room to kill him.
IIRC, an 8th Group guy named Major Pappy Shelton led the MTT that trained the Bolivian Rangers, and a CIA agent named Felix Rodriguez was there when Che was killed.
TR
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01-31-2009, 06:53
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Brush.. those are GREAT!!! Love the Reagan t's....did you see the Gun T's?? Could start a whole new fashion trend! (oops.. was that a bit too girlie?
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A tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny ~ Aesops Fables; The Lamb and the Wolf
Am fear nach gleidh na h-airm san t-sith, cha bhi iad aige 'n am a' chogaidh
"He that keeps not his arms in time of peace will have none in time of war" Old Gaelic
Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property... Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them. Thomas Paine
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01-31-2009, 19:27
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I like the tees that have a picture of Castro with the caption, "Is he dead yet?"
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01-31-2009, 19:53
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Coincidence?
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Now, TS: You know that it was the Bolivians that got Che. It was coincidence that an MTT was around then.
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Funny. Do a Google and read the now declassified files.
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04-01-2009, 12:10
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I remember
I remember people visiting my team at Tolz, late 60's. It would go like this, Peter, I saw your dad in Brussels, your mother said hello and Sgt. Duffield and the team bulletin board. They then would go to the bulletin board and look at six or so pictures of a dead man. I never could get Duffy to acknowledge who the dead man was, but I think i know who it was..........
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04-01-2009, 13:00
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Executed by the indig, actually, I think the third they sent into the room to kill him.
IIRC, an 8th Group guy named Major Pappy Shelton led the MTT that trained the Bolivian Rangers, and a CIA agent named Felix Rodriguez was there when Che was killed.
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It's all in here:
The Death of Che Guevara: Declassified
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB5/index.html
Bolivia on the Day of the Death of Che Guevara
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2005...ott11aug05.htm
Richard's $.02
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