What makes a terrorist?

[T-Rock]

You bring up some very valid points, and a lot of good reading along with a video I have not yet seen. Unfortunately I cannot offer a complete response due to the fact its late and I have to be up early... I am also going away for the weekend and will hopefully have internet, but I cannot promise anything. I won't forget about you, and I hope I can continue the discussion

No problem.…and thanks for taking a look. I will leave this last parting thought though, as the Encyclopaedia of Islam simply states:

The duty of the jihad exists as long as the universal domination of Islam has not been attained. Peace with non-Muslim nations is, therefore, a provisional state of affairs only; the chance of circumstances alone can justify it temporarily. Furthermore there can be no question of genuine peace treaties with these nations; only truces, whose duration ought not, in principle, to exceed ten years, are authorized. But even such truces are precarious, inasmuch as they can, before they expire, be repudiated unilaterally should it appear more profitable for Islam to resume the conflict.

http://www.meforum.org/2066/war-and-...eceit-in-islam

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by T-Rock

Furthermore there can be no question of genuine peace treaties with these nations; only truces, whose duration ought not, in principle, to exceed ten years, are authorized. But even such truces are precarious, inasmuch as they can, before they expire, be repudiated unilaterally should it appear more profitable for Islam to resume the conflict.

IMO, this observation is not especially insightful. The view that the world has always been (and shall always be) a dangerous place filled with hostile nations is hardly a novel concept in American diplomatic, military, or naval history.

[T-Rock]

IMO, this observation is not especially insightful.

Maybe you’re right but I have to wonder - would it have been so for Richard the Lionheart, Moshe Dayan, Yitzhak Rabin, or Bill Clinton
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Intentional deceit is a well grounded doctrine of Islam which presents a range of ethical dilemmas.

Khayrul-Makereen...

[Richard]

...would it have been so for Richard the Lionheart...

Leaders are not very open to negotiation when you have executed several thousands of their captured soldiers being held as hostages because it would be awkward to continue to hold them as your forces advanced.

A side note - I have been to Trifels, the castle where Henry Vl held Richard for ransom - not a well restored castle but copies of Henry's sword, crown, sceptre, and orb as Emperor of the Holy Roman and Germanic Empires are on display there - and I've seen the originals on display in the Schatzkammer in Wien which also contains the Hapsburg collection of holy relics - including what were proclaimed to be pieces from the cross on which Christ was crucified, the Holy Lance used to pierce His side, the thorn of crowns, the cloth that covered the table at the last supper, and Christ's loincloth.

Those who wish to seek out the cause of miracles, and to understand the things of nature as philosophers, and not to stare at them in astonishment like fools, are soon considered heretical and impious, and proclaimed as such by those whom the mob adores as the interpreters of nature and the gods. For these men know that once ignorance is put aside that wonderment would be taken away which is the only means by which their authority is preserved.
- Spinoza

Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.
- Blaise Pascal

Richard

Originally Posted by T-Rock

No problem.…and thanks for taking a look. I will leave this last parting thought though, as the Encyclopaedia of Islam simply states:

The duty of the jihad exists as long as the universal domination of Islam has not been attained. Peace with non-Muslim nations is, therefore, a provisional state of affairs only; the chance of circumstances alone can justify it temporarily. Furthermore there can be no question of genuine peace treaties with these nations; only truces, whose duration ought not, in principle, to exceed ten years, are authorized. But even such truces are precarious, inasmuch as they can, before they expire, be repudiated unilaterally should it appear more profitable for Islam to resume the conflict.

http://www.meforum.org/2066/war-and-...eceit-in-islam

Few seconds I have before I jump in the car... No need to thank me, I enjoy hearing other opinions and reading and learning. This could have easily spun out of control due to the fact topics like this usually do, so it is nice to have a discussion without name calling and whatever else.

Chris