03-03-2006, 21:54
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Alleged terror plot 'trainer' worked for FBI
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Alleged terror plot 'trainer' worked for FBI
WLS By Chuck Goudie
March 1, 2006 - There is a new twist in the Chicago connection to an al Qaeda terror plot. The scheme to attack American soldiers overseas involved a former member of the US military who was secretly working for the FBI.
Investigators close to this case say that the insider who helped federal agents crack the terror ring was a highly trained former member of the US Army's Special Forces. He is in protective custody and is expected to be the key witness in the case. In the indictment he is referred to only as the trainer, because he was hired to train insurgents on how to kill US soldiers. The trainer was recruited just after 9/11, authorities say, by the owner of a Chicago travel agency who is now charged as a terrorist.
Fresh from American Special Forces, the trainer was recruited in early 2002 by accused terrorist Marwan el-Hindi who lived in southwest suburban Hickory Hills. We have learned the trainer's name is Darren, but he was known in Muslim circles as "Bilal" and was hired to provide security and bodyguard training according to the indictment.
In 2004, the FBI says Bilal was assigned by el-Hindi to help train for a holy war against US military in Iraq. In 2005, with firearms and bomb training, lessons in how to smuggle weapons through airports and a plan to show Chicago terrorist trainees a video of how to build suicide bombs.
Through all of the meetings in Toledo with Marwan el-Hindi -- even in el-Hindi's own home -- after each shooting drill on this Toledo gun range, federal authorities say "the trainer" was providing the government with a running account of terrorist plans, plots and movements.
A year ago, authorities say the trainer was given a new supervisor, suspect Mohammad Amawi, who plotted to order chemical weapons. Last summer, the two men traveled to Jordan to deliver computers to insurgents. The computers held plans for a series of roadside bombings of US military convoys. It is unclear whether any of the attacks took place, or whether last week's indictment of three accused terrorists in Ohio short-circuited the entire plan.
What is certain: the trainer, Darren "Bilal" is not charged and he is not expected to be charged, having gone to authorities when he realized the plot involved attacks on soldiers he used to serve with.
The trainer has been moved out of his Toledo apartment and celebrated his 40th birthday Wednesday in federal witness protection. No one answers his home phone and his voicemail is full. We have learned his last name, but have chosen not to use it, as authorities believe that his family could be in danger because he turned on terrorists.
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03-03-2006, 22:07
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wow.
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03-04-2006, 06:30
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It will be interesting to see where this ends up.
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03-04-2006, 07:42
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Amen to that
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03-04-2006, 08:43
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Wow. If thats true I would like to buy than man a beer and shake his hand.
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03-04-2006, 11:05
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Wow. If thats true I would like to buy than man a beer and shake his hand.
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I think you might blow his cover if he is still professing to be a Muslim
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03-04-2006, 12:40
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Very interesting article, thanks for posting NDD.
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03-05-2006, 15:43
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Key is getting something in writing from the FBI to prove you contacted them and are working to pass the info.
Dangerous game if you mess it up.
Best if you're school trained and not just some Walter Mitty...
JM
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03-06-2006, 18:13
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03-06-2006, 18:38
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Mmmm. Interesting. The press sucks.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?
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03-06-2006, 19:37
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“We are 100 percent sure now that Darren Griffin is ‘The Trainer,’” Jihad Smaili, a Cleveland attorney and member of KindHearts’ board of directors, said yesterday.
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Looks like he was outed internally. However, shame on the paper for repeating his name in the open.
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03-06-2006, 19:40
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Nice of the organization he worked for to rat him out.
Hope that they have a good witness protection program for him.
He may be safer deployed.
Doc, is he near you in Ohio?
TR
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03-12-2006, 14:57
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The press feeds off this...
and they'll feed off the story that evolves if he gets wacked.
How long before they learn professional responsibility?
Not til this happens, they get prosecuted for reckless endangerment and/or lose their shorts in a subsequent civil suit?
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03-12-2006, 15:42
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Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor
The press feeds off this...
and they'll feed off the story that evolves if he gets wacked.
How long before they learn professional responsibility?
Not til this happens, they get prosecuted for reckless endangerment and/or lose their shorts in a subsequent civil suit?
AL/RL care to expand?
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The First Amendment protects what they're doing.
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03-12-2006, 15:58
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
The First Amendment protects what they're doing.
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I know you are right, but I think that it only protects your right to free speech and does not guarantee you any right to be heard. The problem with the media is that they occupy airways and printed space that alows them to get its msg across even if you do not care to hear/read it. I think if I walked into some media mogul's office and demanded to be heard I would be, after an appropriate struggle of course  , thrown out on my ass. If I submit a letter to an editor he/she (got to keep FS off my 4th POC) has the "editorial perrogative" either not to print it or edit it. In my simple way of looking at things, the playing field is not at all level which really ticks me off seeing as anyone who has worn this country's uniform has guaranteed these treasonous bastards the right to put our compatriots in harms way. Just my opinion.
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