Are we at war with Islam?

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Again GH, leave the twisting for the uninitiated.

I was in Indonesia a few years ago, lived and worked with the military to include the Indonesian Special Forces. I know what a “repressive” government is and how it operates.

Indonesia is a repressive government. I have witnessed soldiers beating civilians, forcing a busload of civilians off the road into a ditch because they were moving too slow, causally breaking windows and side mirrors of civilian vehicles to allow military vehicles to move unimpeded, using a farmers land for a drop zone, placing small children in harms way by parachute jumping over their heads as they worked in the farmers fields, I could go on and on but you get the drift. I've told you before don’t use Indonesia as a model of a noble moslem country, its not, I've been there.

Are you now going to question my years of active duty Special Forces training concerning insurgencies and terrorism, what they are, how they start, WHY they start, many due to repressive governments?

I can assure you I can identify a repressive government 10 out of 10 times.

De Oppresso Liber

Team Sergeant

No chance that Indonesia might have changed in the last few years?
Btw, as a New Yorker, I've witnessed Police Officers beating civilians, forcing civilians off the road, and seen side mirrors broken by garbage trucks so that they can move unimpeded. I'm also aware (although I did not witness it) of Police Officers killing innocent civilians.

Shall we call the government of New York a repressive one?

And since you are so concerned with repressive governments, can you tell me what the US Government was under Abraham Lincoln? How about FDR?