Supplements

[stinney]

Hey Guys,
I’m sorry if this topic has bee covered in another post, I Searched. No ceegar.
I was wondering what if any supplements are allowed at SFAS and the rest of the pipeline, I know that Ephedra based products and Creatine are not but was wondering what is? Not necessarily performance enhancement supplements but more like the Multivitamin, calcium E & C, Fiber kind?
Along those same lines what about Sports bars/drinks (power bars etc..

Also, I was wondering what the operator’s eat/drink/supplement with both in garrison and in the field.

Thanks

[Radar Rider]

Is it on the packing list? Have you seen the packing list? No? If it's not on the list, don't take it.

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Radar Rider
Is it on the packing list? Have you seen the packing list? No? If it's not on the list, don't take it.

Exactly.

This is Special Forces Assessment and Selection, NOT Gucci Gear Try for the Wannabe Straight Guy.

Read the list.

Deviate from it at your own peril.

For you 18Xs, that would be 5 years in an Infantry Division, not necessarily the 82nd.

TR

[Solid]

My doctor tells me that supplements are pretty useless unless you have a deficiency, which most healthy people don't.

Is that right??

Solid

[NousDefionsDoc]

Solid,
Take it to the med forum.

Stinney - do pushups.

[stinney]

Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Stinney - do pushups.

Roger that,Doc. How many and with which hand?

[NousDefionsDoc]

Let's see, SBT 12, so 1,200 for that. Navy alone is worth another 1k, so that's 2,200. That should do it.

Since you're Navy, you may use both arms and not elevate your feet.

Recover on you own.

[Jack Moroney (RIP)]

SFAS is assessing you not your ability to perform on supplements. We want to see how you perform as a person not a chemist.

Für die Sicherheit
Jack Moroney

[ChaoticVirtuoso]

I use suppliments for my current training program, but thats only to stay healthy up until selection.

Honestly all you really need is a good multi-vitamin and possibly a Protein suppliment. I've increased all of my physical abilities and added 30 points to my PT test... But this aint shit unless you prepare mentally. How do you do that? How the hell do I know, I've never been. Just going to prepare physically, and hope that I make it through based on my preparations and experience by listening to BTDT's...

[Razor]

Protein supplements? What, are you a competitive bodybuilder? Significant research has shown that you only need 0.6 - 0.8 grams of protein per pound of body weight per day to meet your nutritional needs, even if you're preparing for SFAS, BUD/S, or what have you. Would you like to guess where all that expensive, extra protein in your diet is going? Literally, right down the toilet in the form of excess urea in your urine. Additionally, you're putting unnecessary stress on your system by requiring more water to assist in the metabolism of the extra protein, and putting an extra workload on your liver and kidneys for no appreciable gain in muscle mass, strength or endurance. But hey, if you want to believe that it gives you an edge, drive on with your bad self. Just be sure to pack a couple extra gallons of drinking water in your ruck during SFAS. At 8lbs a gallon, you will really appreciate the additional challenge.

[Surgicalcric]

I could not have explained better the use/abuse of protein supplements Sir.

Also if any of you are using Creatine Monohydrate stop. It also does very bad things to your kidneys if not used wisely.

[ChaoticVirtuoso]

I don't use creatine nor do I use Protein in any excess amount. Protein is not just for bodybuilders and if used correctly can and will increase strength and muscle endurance. Also, I will obviously not be using protein suppliments during selection. Of course, results will not be the same for everyone. As for myself, I know my body well enough and can testify that protein has helped. You are correct in the fact that consumption of mass amounts of water is recommended. All I ever really drink is water. On heavy workout days I will consume anywhere from 2-3 gallons of water.

4x per week: +40g of Protein added to normal diet
Off Days: +18g of Protein added to normal diet

Bodybuilders consume anywhere from 60-80g of Protein if not more. I am in no way buff in those respects.

APFT before Protein, Multi-Vitamin Suppliment, Diet: 260's (Steadily increased from 230 at approximitly 5-8 point increase per month of steady workout program.)

APFT after Protein, Multi-Vitamin SUppliment, Diet: 320 (Increase from 260's at approximitly 9-12 point increase per month of the same steady workout program.)

My disclaimer is this; this is based off my body and my body limitations. Results will not be the same for all, but I wanted to share my experiences here incase others could benefit. Adding 90 points to your APFT is not easy and takes dedication. Protein and Suppliments alone will not help. They are not cure-alls. You have to use them correctly and the way that best fits to your physical needs. It should be said noted that while I am in the 320's, I have not increased significantly in the past 2-months (Maybe 2-5 points). Levels of physical fitness are met by tiers of difficulty. With my current work-out, I doubt I will break 330 unless I step it up. It is twice as hard to stay in shape, as it is to get in shape.

Hope this explains my previous post better.

-Chaotic the "Body" Virtuoso

[DoctorDoom]

40 grams a day of extra protein? Wow... I would have thought that your body can't process that much protein... probably crap it right out, doesn't even reach the kidneys as urea...

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by ChaoticVirtuoso
I don't use creatine nor do I use Protein in any excess amount. Protein is not just for bodybuilders and if used correctly can and will increase strength and muscle endurance. Also, I will obviously not be using protein suppliments during selection. Of course, results will not be the same for everyone. As for myself, I know my body well enough and can testify that protein has helped. You are correct in the fact that consumption of mass amounts of water is recommended. All I ever really drink is water. On heavy workout days I will consume anywhere from 2-3 gallons of water.

4x per week: +40g of Protein added to normal diet
Off Days: +18g of Protein added to normal diet

Bodybuilders consume anywhere from 60-80g of Protein if not more. I am in no way buff in those respects.

APFT before Protein, Multi-Vitamin Suppliment, Diet: 260's (Steadily increased from 230 at approximitly 5-8 point increase per month of steady workout program.)

APFT after Protein, Multi-Vitamin SUppliment, Diet: 320 (Increase from 260's at approximitly 9-12 point increase per month of the same steady workout program.)

My disclaimer is this; this is based off my body and my body limitations. Results will not be the same for all, but I wanted to share my experiences here incase others could benefit. Adding 90 points to your APFT is not easy and takes dedication. Protein and Suppliments alone will not help. They are not cure-alls. You have to use them correctly and the way that best fits to your physical needs. It should be said noted that while I am in the 320's, I have not increased significantly in the past 2-months (Maybe 2-5 points). Levels of physical fitness are met by tiers of difficulty. With my current work-out, I doubt I will break 330 unless I step it up. It is twice as hard to stay in shape, as it is to get in shape.

Hope this explains my previous post better.

-Chaotic the "Body" Virtuoso

Body:

I disagree with your program, your thesis, and your cause and effect analysis.

I think you are in for a great big surprise here, but hope it works out well for you regardless.

What will your body do when you get deprived off all of this chemical assistance and you get broken down for several weeks should be an interesting case study.

I look forward to seeing you, or your report.

TR

[ChaoticVirtuoso]

40g is not boat-load. And yes much of it is 'crapped' out, but what isnt? Your body never utilizes all the goodies you consume.