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Old 09-03-2005, 19:14   #1
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Question My Experience: EOTech 552 -vs- Aimpoint Comp-M

I very recently sold my Aimpoint Comp-M & jumped on the EOTech bandwagon. Though I am very satisfied with the EOTech for CQB (Indoor), I do miss my Aimpoint.

Maybe it's just me, but I was at the range today zeroing my EOTech sight & I had a pretty hard time seeing the reticle in the bright sunlight even with the brightness setting turned all the way up. I never had this problem with my Aimpoint. The place where I shoot had covered bencherests, but the targets downrange were in the sunlight. Perhaps it would have helped if I had some black Shoot-N-C stickers on my targets, but a white paper target washed out the reticle pretty bad. I had to use my BUIS & C0-host back & forth to make sure that I was on target.

Anyone else have this problem with the EOTech and what did you do to remedy it?

I'm considering giving the EOTech to the guy that I sold my Aimpoint to & getting my Aimpoint back. Am I making a mistake?

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Old 09-03-2005, 19:33   #2
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I have experienced that washout as well.

That is one of the reasons I prefer the TA31F ACOG.

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Old 09-04-2005, 08:32   #3
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Tool for the job

Understand your dilemma, but you have to look at application to answer the question. Guys who were brought up on iron begrudgingly went to aimpoints- and got faster, and so on with Holosights. But this was within a narrow environmental set that deals mainly with close-in fast shooting. If you're on your own dime I recommend you parallel what you HAVE to use at work to be as good as you can with that system. Otherwise have multiple options is the way to go, especially if magnification(ACOG) is a factor or fast, close-in work with percentage tgts(aimpoint/eotech)...make sure your good w/iron first.
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Old 09-04-2005, 09:37   #4
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I have experienced that washout as well.

That is one of the reasons I prefer the TA31F ACOG.

TR

I used the TA31F last weekend, damn fine piece of equipment!

(Will be selling the EOTEC soonest......)

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Old 09-04-2005, 10:43   #5
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(Will be selling the EOTEC soonest......)
Do let me know . . .
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Old 09-05-2005, 19:10   #6
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I'm considering giving the EOTech to the guy that I sold my Aimpoint to & getting my Aimpoint back. Am I making a mistake?
I think you are going to have the same problem with the COMP-M. I have used both in some pretty bright conditions -- snow in a desert with bright sun -- and yes, they wash out if the target is also white. Both are equally time consuming trying to crank up the power for the dot.

I have found guys to hate the M-68 and love the EOTEC. Have found guys to hate both and love the irons. Have found guys to hate optics and love one of the other three.

Have rarely seen a set of irons break unless they are the Back Up Irons being issued on the M-4 carbine. Have seen more M-68s shit the bed than EOTECs for reasons unknown to man. They just stopped working. Have seen more EOTECs simply not zero or hold zero than M-68s. Most troops love the ACOG and it is pretty damn tough.

I personally don't care for the ACOG although I recently recommended that a brigade obtain quite a number of them. Simple fact is that the Army is going to them and so Joe needs to get used to them. It isn't that I don't like the ACOG. My eyes don't like the ACOG. I think it may have something to do with my personal likes concerning eye relief, clarity, and field of view but I will attest to their toughness and compact design.

Perhaps you need to determine which sight is the most comfortable for your eye to use and stick with that one. You will know which one you like because you will see it. Once you see what you like, you will probably be more likely to push it to its limits in terms of performance than something you don't like but may obtain anyway.

Knowing what you want the sight for is also a real good idea when considering the money involved in ACOGs and electronic sights.

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Old 09-05-2005, 20:35   #7
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AA - Everybody else has made some really good points. Like GE says - It really is a matter of personal preference. I have an EOTech and several Aimpoints. The EOTech is on my carbine and the Aimpoint is on the wife's. I stick with the EOTech because I like the reticle and it "passes" more light (sees better in low-light) than the Aimpoint IN MY OPINION. Because of it's design, the EOTech "feels" more open and my brain seems to integrate the visual information faster and more comfortably with it than with the Aimpoint. But - battery life is not as good as the Aimpoint and they do turn themselves off after 4-8 hours (which might not be convenient if you haven't been paying attention). The "washout" in bright light is going to happen with any of the illuminated sights. Fortunately I don't see myself hunting bad guys in the snow - though I have had problems with distinguishing tan targets against a dirt background (fortunately, I don't have to hunt tangos in the sandbox either). I will be getting an ACOG or two but it will probably not go on my short (CQB) range gun. The ACOGs with the fiber optic are the only ones I know of that compensate for varying light conditions without the operator having to fiddle with them - but shooters find themselves using tape over the FO to block it off when too much light is illuminating the reticle. Everything requires compromises, what to accept is up to you. Just some more grist for the mill. YMMV - Peregrino
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Old 09-06-2005, 09:04   #8
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Gentlemen, I appreciate all of the feedback. I have a better understanding of the limitations for each of the optics that I own & will use them accordingly. Time to save up for a TA31F.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:45   #9
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Gentlemen, I appreciate all of the feedback. I have a better understanding of the limitations for each of the optics that I own & will use them accordingly. Time to save up for a TA31F.
I love mine.
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Old 09-09-2005, 02:41   #10
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Joining in the discussion, does anyone have experience using the J-point sights on top of the ACOG?
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