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Old 05-15-2005, 11:45   #1
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Infantry in Action

http://www.infantry.army.mil/combatives/

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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.

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Old 05-15-2005, 12:09   #2
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very interesting

Very educational as well. Implementation to all units may be difficult though (i.e. not just combat arms units)...
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Old 05-15-2005, 12:27   #3
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Old 05-15-2005, 12:37   #4
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http://www.moderncombatives.org/pages/1/
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
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Old 05-15-2005, 12:41   #5
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Don't view my comment as an argument against it, far from it. For a long time I wanted combatives to be an integrative part of the training that my unit received, but being a bean counter in an ammo unit put us low on the list for this training (as told to me by my Grp commander during a question and answer session). Not only is it an important skill for all soldiers to have a working knowledge of, it provides quite a workout too (which is definitely needed in a lot of units). That is what I meant by implementation (FWIW)
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Old 05-15-2005, 12:59   #6
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I like this. A lot.

Here's FM 3-25.150.
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Old 05-15-2005, 13:13   #7
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Why?
For the same reason COSCOM doesn't teach Advanced Marksmanship to their soldiers. Lack of proper command emphasis.

BTW:

I was a student of Larson's program when it first started and it was a "kick-ass" program even then. I'm glad to see that it has gone as far as this. He is largely responsible for making this program what it is today. We need to see this become part of mandatory unit training just like basic rifle marksmanship.

Until then, squad leaders can emmulate what many SF Team Sergeants have done and implement it on their own small unit training program (as opposed to letting "Joe" go back to the barracks to play X-Box until something comes up during duty hours).
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Old 05-15-2005, 13:20   #8
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I specifically like how he implements the program into the daily training, so that it is constant, yet unexpected.
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Old 05-15-2005, 15:17   #9
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Good stuff for everyone.

I like this. Pretty much says it all,
the winner of the hand-to-hand fight in combat is the one whose buddy shows up first with a gun.
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