10-16-2013, 04:41
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Unconventional leader stuck in a Conventional leadeship
Currently in the Reserve Component (RC) 10+Yrs service, 1LT (LOG) presently in Afghanistan, as a DET CDR, cultural advisor... BLUF: "A WAY not THE WAY"... I'm interested in transferring into AC SFG that has a slot for LOGI's, establish myself... WHY? The end state is to earn the opportunity to go through the pipeline. Utilize my previous background experiences with unconventional leaders who can appreciate Jr. Leaders that can easily adapt in a constantly changing environment, and get positive results.
Feedback welcome?
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10-16-2013, 05:18
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Last intro thread
The last intro thread was started 02/2012.
Stats show you joined in 10/2012.
Your post count shows "1".
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10-16-2013, 05:44
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No Intro post is quite Unconventional but alas all too Common.
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10-16-2013, 09:44
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LT, if you want to join the community, ya gotta learn to follow directions...just my 2 cents.
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10-16-2013, 10:06
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So you live in Georgia and Alabama? How's that work?
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10-20-2013, 13:38
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Pete
The last intro thread was started 02/2012.
Stats show you joined in 10/2012.
Your post count shows "1".
Correct Pete, it is odd the dates are backwards. And the "post count shows "1" was a deliberate decision on my part. I choose to research and absorb the content in this forum, as it is very informative and beneficial. As a result almost a year to date my time can be successfully accounted for. Time well spent by improving my professional military education (PME) and advance civilian education.
P.S. My absence doesn't mean I'm not present, it simply means I'm observing, and in a constant state of preparation.
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04-21-2014, 13:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhornet
Currently in the Reserve Component (RC) 10+Yrs service, 1LT (LOG) presently in Afghanistan, as a DET CDR, cultural advisor... BLUF: "A WAY not THE WAY"... I'm interested in transferring into AC SFG that has a slot for LOGI's, establish myself... WHY? The end state is to earn the opportunity to go through the pipeline. Utilize my previous background experiences with unconventional leaders who can appreciate Jr. Leaders that can easily adapt in a constantly changing environment, and get positive results.
Feedback welcome?
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I would be curious of what you consider unconventional?? the definition I got from your post is the same one used by everyone not familiar with true UW.
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04-22-2014, 08:59
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WarriorDiplomat, in other words the common sense approach to solving problems. i.e. a degree doesn't make anyone eduacted. I'm not implying I know everything I'm learning everyday. That said, the experience gained from working w/ Afghans has taught me how to adapt IOT solve and/or prevent problems. But it seems some strategic level unconvetional (common sense, simple approach) thinking is lost to some degree. I hope this helps
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04-22-2014, 10:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhornet
WarriorDiplomat, in other words the common sense approach to solving problems. i.e. a degree doesn't make anyone eduacted. I'm not implying I know everything I'm learning everyday. That said, the experience gained from working w/ Afghans has taught me how to adapt IOT solve and/or prevent problems. But it seems some strategic level unconvetional (common sense, simple approach) thinking is lost to some degree. I hope this helps
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OK I understand your thinking and I agree you are definitely on the right track not doubting your intent just checking your comprehension. BTW the 18A field is super competitive their have been O's who have graduated the Q and then sent back to Big Army without serving a day in SF. Be aware that this is the current sitrep so if you drop a packet you need to be towards the top of the pack in training and with us that means in every area. Even though some areas will seem ambiguous the cadre know what to look for.
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04-23-2014, 07:03
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WarriorDiplomat: I appreciate the candid advice and future dialogue. I've been training daily (mentally). While @ BOLC I made the cut off for Ranger School but due to my component Reserve it was not possible, "Delayed but not denied" I remain focus and engaged (training). "So what" you might say... It's a vocation, knowing you can contribute to something far greater and can have value added to others, is a great feeling. As a LOGI in Afghan just to see others benefitted as result of the work (negotiation, dialogue, relationship building, and procurement) that was done behind the scene was enough for me to say a difference was made mission accomplished. While at the same time it's an ongoing commitment, (Reset, but never power off).
I'm not looking to be praised, rewarded for making it into SF, nor will I be disappointed if I don't. The key for me is the willingness to follow through, learn, seek advice, Knowledge and mentorship from SME in SF/this community. b/c I know after it's all said and done I can say I gave it my ALL mentally and physically. The Cadre will be the judge "Pass of Fail".
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04-25-2014, 17:52
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Originally Posted by blackhornet
WarriorDiplomat: I appreciate the candid advice and future dialogue. I've been training daily (mentally). While @ BOLC I made the cut off for Ranger School but due to my component Reserve it was not possible, "Delayed but not denied" I remain focus and engaged (training). "So what" you might say... It's a vocation, knowing you can contribute to something far greater and can have value added to others, is a great feeling. As a LOGI in Afghan just to see others benefitted as result of the work (negotiation, dialogue, relationship building, and procurement) that was done behind the scene was enough for me to say a difference was made mission accomplished. While at the same time it's an ongoing commitment, (Reset, but never power off).
I'm not looking to be praised, rewarded for making it into SF, nor will I be disappointed if I don't. The key for me is the willingness to follow through, learn, seek advice, Knowledge and mentorship from SME in SF/this community. b/c I know after it's all said and done I can say I gave it my ALL mentally and physically. The Cadre will be the judge "Pass of Fail".
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There are some who join for the bragging rights, fringe benefits and what not. Most realize in training and after there first deployment most of your career is in far away places in living in anomynity. Everyone is driven to join for personal reasons but what brings all of us together is the mission this is where all our differences reconcile. The reward is personal the life style we live is more a calling just like a teacher or a preacher the bug bites you or it doesnt it isnt for everyone. But the only way you will know is to do it and find out if its for you. Few get bit for the long haul and some sre 1 or 2 tour guys no shame in that
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04-26-2014, 09:45
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Ahhhh...
Don't talk about it -
Just do it -
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04-26-2014, 13:50
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@ Kasik I will.
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