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Old 05-03-2012, 02:06   #1
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While reading "Not a good day to die" it profiled a SOF Tier 1 soldier who was a SF baby. From my understanding SF babies are men who have enlisted into a SF option, which currently is 18x, and made it through the Q course. What I was wondering was since this is back in early 2002 and this soldiers SF career predated the 18x program what was the 18x predecessor?
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:44   #2
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While reading "Not a good day to die" it profiled a SOF Tier 1 soldier who was a SF baby. From my understanding SF babies are men who have enlisted into a SF option, which currently is 18x, and made it through the Q course. What I was wondering was since this is back in early 2002 and this soldiers SF career predated the 18x program what was the 18x predecessor?
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A little searching would pull up many threads about this subject.

18X is not an MOS - Just a tracking tool.
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Old 05-03-2012, 14:18   #3
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A little searching would pull up many threads about this subject.

18X is not an MOS - Just a tracking tool.
Speaking of babies,when about 100 or so of us went to the 77th after having to re-enlist for 6 years,we were all in our late teens and the "Originals" definitely referred to us as "Banks Babies"...........

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Old 05-04-2012, 03:35   #4
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The program was called Rep63. A soldier could enlist with the SFQC as part of his training. A typical Rep63 initial entry for training might include OSUT (Basic and AIT), Airborne, SFAS, and the SFQC. Then it's on to your Team for laughs, fun, and worldwide deployments!
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:08   #5
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The program was called Rep63. A soldier could enlist with the SFQC as part of his training. A typical Rep63 initial entry for training might include OSUT (Basic and AIT), Airborne, SFAS, and the SFQC. Then it's on to your Team for laughs, fun, and worldwide deployments!

Incorrect! REP 63 is a law that pertains to reserve component enlistments. It is not an SF specific enlistment option, and not the predecessor of the 18X Option.



"THE TERM "REP 63 OBLIGATION" IS EXPLAINED IN PARAGRAPH 1-3D(1)(D), ARMY REGULATION 135-90, AS MEANING AN OBLIGATION INCURRED UNDER THE RESERVE ENLISTMENT PROGRAM OF 1963 (REP 63) (10 U.S.C. 511(D)) TO SERVE ON ACTIVE DUTY FOR TRAINING FOR A PERIOD OF AT LEAST 4 MONTHS AND TO SERVE IN A RESERVE COMPONENT UNTIL THE SIXTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE DATE OF ENLISTMENT. "ACTIVE DUTY FOR TRAINING" IS DEFINED IN ARMY REGULATION 310-25, AS FOLLOWS:

FULL-TIME DUTY IN THE ACTIVE MILITARY SERVICE OF THE UNITED STATES, WITH OR WITHOUT PAY FOR TRAINING PURPOSES. THIS INCLUDES THE INITIAL PERIOD OF TRAINING REQUIRED BY 10 U.S.C. 511(D) FOR ENLISTED MEMBERS OF THE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD OF THE UNITED STATES AND ARMY RESERVE AND, WITH RESPECT TO THE ARMY RESERVE, ANNUAL TRAINING, ATTENDANCE AT ARMY SERVICE SCHOOLS, PARTICIPATION IN SMALL ARMS COMPETITION, SHORT TOURS OF ACTIVE DUTY FOR SPECIAL PROJECTS, ATTENDANCE AT MILITARY CONFERENCES AND PARTICIPATION IN A COMMAND POST EXERCISE, FIELD TRAINING EXERCISE, OR MANEUVER, UNDER 10 U.S.C. 672(B), 672(D) OR 683.

THAT 1963 LAW ESTABLISHED A 6-YEAR RESERVE ENLISTMENT PROGRAM ("REP 63") OF TRAINING, UNDER WHICH THE MEMBER ENLISTS IN THE READY RESERVE OF ANY RESERVE COMPONENT OF THE ARMED FORCES OR NATIONAL GUARD TO SERVE AS A MEMBER OF AN ORGANIZED UNIT THEREOF IN ACCORDANCE WITH 10 U.S.C. 270 OR 32 U.S.C. 502 AND IN ADDITION PERFORMS "ACTIVE DUTY FOR TRAINING WITH AN ARMED FORCE FOR NOT LESS THAN FOUR CONSECUTIVE MONTHS." SECTION 502 OF TITLE 32, U.S. CODE, ESTABLISHES THE PROGRAM OF INACTIVE DUTY TRAINING DRILLS AND TRAINING AT ENCAMPMENTS, MANEUVERS, OUTDOOR TARGET PRACTICE, OR OTHER EXERCISES, AT LEAST 15 DAYS EACH YEAR, FOR MEMBERS OF THE NATIONAL GUARD.

THE TERM "ACTIVE DUTY" IS DEFINED IN 10 U.S.C. 101, 32 U.S.C. 101, AND 37 U.S.C. 101, AS INCLUDING "FULL-TIME TRAINING DUTY." IT IS CLEAR THAT ACTIVE DUTY FOR TRAINING PURSUANT TO THE 1963 LAW AS WELL AS OTHER ACTIVE DUTY FOR TRAINING IS FULL-TIME TRAINING DUTY AND IS "ACTIVE DUTY" WITHIN THE MEANING OF TITLES 10, 32, AND 37, UNITED STATES CODE."

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Old 05-04-2012, 07:32   #6
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I was an SF baby in 67, Basic, AIT, (recruited in AIT at Ft Ord), Airborne and then reported to IMA (now SWC) for SF training, all in 67. No conventional time at all, except training.
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:50   #7
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My experience identical to LR 47.

Enlisted Abn Inf in 66,
Spring 67 they took three of us out of AIT one day and said we "had" to take the SF test.

Got orders to JFKSWC pending finishing AIT and graduation from BAC.

There was quite a flood of us on the Hill those days.

A lot of us did quite well, in spite of being babies.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:40   #8
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I was drafted in July of 1970. While waiting for Basic to start at Ft Ord, SFC Roy Green gave his talk on SF. I had to be discharged from the army then enlist as RA to go to IMA.
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:27   #9
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I came in as an SF Baby in 78. Enlisted for my MOS (05B), jump school, the SFQC or whatever it was called then, and the Group I wanted to go to. When I left Benning, I was assigned to the Group with duty at IMA for the school. When I graduated I was pretty clueless about most things, but could send code like a wild man and was in good shape. Some great Team Sergeants taught me the rest.

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