01-26-2012, 22:42
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Med issudes and SFAS
My thanks to all ahead of time in regards to questions that can be answered.
So to begin, first off I have done plenty of searching on the net and the forum and have found some excellent info that has answered some questions of mine, but not all of them. Was wishing to have a PM conversation with a current member of the regiment but fears directed that I should go ahead and post a thread to get what I need answered.
For personal background, I'm currently a 27yr old, 8yr vet who recently left the Marine Corps, MOS 0311 (infantry rifleman) with a clean record and several combat deployments. It is not only my desire, but a absolute need and want to be SOF. It has been a dream of mine to not only be a warrior in service to the country I love but SOF for as long as I can recall. I want to not just serve, but serve with consummate professionals who take their job seriously and are the best at what they do. I want to serve in a elite capacity, I want to be the tip of the spear, and I want to continue as a warrior, a elite warrior. I'm sure I'd get asked the question "why didn't u go into MARSOC?" and I was slated to but my mothers diagnosis of cancer and subsequent death turned my world upside down, sent me into a nice tail spin for awhile, and made me reassess my life. I could list the reasons as to why I left the Corps, but the main one was family.
Currently with my grandfather in failing health I'm residing with him and taking advantage of the GI bill to acquire my college education and focus my mind, body, and soul to the coming task while helping him stay in his home for at least a few more years until the reality of his failing health would require him to move in with one of his children or to a home. Until then I'll happily take on the burden of helping another while improving myself.
With that all said and my personal situation and background explained (sorry if it came off as long winded), onto the questions I would ask of members on here in regards to my future in SOF.
1. This is med related: I have psoriasis which is more of a annoyance to my physical well being than anything and has never affected my ability to perform in the military. Is this a disqualifier? I would think not but wanted to make sure.
2. Had read on a previous forum of a individual who was turned down for airborne school because of a hernia surgery he had done but didn't have it while in the military which caused a issue for jump school med qual's. I had a hernia surgery back in 07 while on active duty at Bethesda naval hospital, haven't had a issue from it ever since the surgery, again any issue with that?
Those are the main concerns I have at the moment. Again I do truly appreciate any answers and input members on here can give. If its better to PM in regards to all this feel free to do so. Thank you all and have a Semper day!
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01-27-2012, 00:01
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Couple things...
Did you research AR40-501 for answers to your questions? Thats where the answers will be found to your two questions. We could give you our interpretation of the regulation after having had looked up the same reg.
Taken from the thread, 'Welcome! Please Read!' It was three posts above yours and is a sticky.
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...any questions may deal with eligibility and waivers.
Medical standards are outlined in Army Regulation 40-501, Standards of Medical Fitness, dated 28 MAR 02. Some items are waiverable, and some are not. DO NOT LIE ABOUT YOUR MEDICAL HISTORY.
The full text is available here:
AR40-501
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And lastly, SOF is Special Operations Forces which include MARSOC, PJ/CCTs, Rangers, SF, SEALs, etc. SF is Special Forces. I knew what you were referring to but wanted to clarify the difference.
HTH,
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01-27-2012, 06:54
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Couple things...
Did you research AR40-501 for answers to your questions? Thats where the answers will be found to your two questions. We could give you our interpretation of the regulation after having had looked up the same reg.
Taken from the thread, 'Welcome! Please Read!' It was three posts above yours and is a sticky.
And lastly, SOF is Special Operations Forces which include MARSOC, PJ/CCTs, Rangers, SF, SEALs, etc. SF is Special Forces. I knew what you were referring to but wanted to clarify the difference.
HTH,
Crip
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Crip's right,If you want to go SOF stay in the Marines and request MARSOC it's probably easier than re-enlisting for SOF in the army............
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01-27-2012, 07:54
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copy that
appreciated, will check the med standards, and apologies the SOF thing was simply a mistake from my sometimes fast typing. I'm officially out of the Corps and in school right now, so staying in is a option that's come and gone, and quite frankly NGSF has more appeal and interest to me than MARSOC. I enjoyed the Corps and miss it at times, but felt a different path was needed. I'm sure others can relate in that regard.
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01-27-2012, 08:14
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ok looked...
I did as you said, didn't seem to be anything disqualifying regarding psoriasis, but hernia was listed as a disqualifier for nearly all SOF training, however it didn't say anything in regards to it being repaired, so i'm under the impression it means if you have a current, untreated one it's a no go. Am I reading it correctly or reading what I want into it? I'll eventually be talking with a recruiter in regards to all of this.
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01-27-2012, 09:23
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Well. . . . back when I was applying for SFQC (and Dinosaurs RULLLLLLL-ED the Earth) I told them I'd had a hernia repaired and . . . the REST is history!
You guys worry to much.
Do what you can to control what you can (not much) then cross your fingers and kiss your girl for luck; hand your static line to the JumpMaster and stand in the door. GO! on the tap.
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01-27-2012, 10:36
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Originally Posted by Fenian0311
I did as you said, didn't seem to be anything disqualifying regarding psoriasis, but hernia was listed as a disqualifier for nearly all SOF training, however it didn't say anything in regards to it being repaired, so i'm under the impression it means if you have a current, untreated one it's a no go. Am I reading it correctly or reading what I want into it? I'll eventually be talking with a recruiter in regards to all of this.
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You didn't look very hard...
Ch 2 (Enlistment) Section 28 paragraph "o":
Current or History of psoriasis does not meet the standard
Ch 5 Section 3 Medical Fitness for initial selection of ABN, RANGER, SERE, SF etc paragraph a, 2:
Hernia of any variety including inguinal and other abdominal
paragraph r "Skin and Cellular tissues"
see paragraph 2-28 which I referenced for you already
You may be able to apply for a waiver for these conditions, but with the current status of forces, pending draw-down, and ability of the services to now pick and choose, I wouldn't hold my breath.
And lastly - for you to use as the excuse that putting "SOF" in your initial post was a typo would have been fine...until you did it again in your very next post.
Don't tell us what you think we want to hear - owning up to (and correcting) a simple mistake is SO much easier....and unconditionally the right thing to do.
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01-27-2012, 08:08
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Originally Posted by Fenian0311
. I'm sure I'd get asked the question "why didn't u go into MARSOC?"
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Not around here, you won't.
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