05-14-2011, 04:54
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Bad Tolz BN run standards?
Guys, my mind is a bit foggy but wasn't the 1/10th standard at Bad Tolz, 6 miles in 50 minutes? I'm getting myself back into my old Scuba fitness self since I retired. I'm currently running 5k in 27-28 minutes.
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05-14-2011, 05:04
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The only running standard(s) we had when I was there were the quarterly run up and down the Blomberg (no set time) and the APFT two mile run IAW the Army scoring system for age groupings - my best time was 11:09 for two miles in combat boots and OG-107 fatigues.
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05-14-2011, 18:17
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expected,
but not all did
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05-14-2011, 18:26
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05-16-2011, 07:50
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Trojan Warrior Test
That 6 miles in 50 mins was the old Trojan Warrior time standard. When we did the APFT, qualified with rifle and pistol, 100 question written exam and a 10 km run in one day. Then the 3 days of treking across the country side doing common skills testing. I think it was 15-20k between points and did 2 points per day.
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05-16-2011, 09:13
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That 6 miles in 50 mins was the old Trojan Warrior time standard. When we did the APFT, qualified with rifle and pistol, 100 question written exam and a 10 km run in one day. Then the 3 days of treking across the country side doing common skills testing. I think it was 15-20k between points and did 2 points per day.
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Hey brother, what was the "100 questions"?
example please.....
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05-17-2011, 00:21
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That 6 miles in 50 mins was the old Trojan Warrior time standard. When we did the APFT, qualified with rifle and pistol, 100 question written exam and a 10 km run in one day. Then the 3 days of treking across the country side doing common skills testing. I think it was 15-20k between points and did 2 points per day.
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csquare,
Thanks, that's what I thought is was. I remember that year we did the Trojan Warrior, I had just left 012 we were on and went to 015. About 75 miles in 3 days bouncing across Bavaria. 12 miles straight line between points. I had forgotten about the written test. Working up to my first marathon here.
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05-16-2011, 09:16
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Originally Posted by Richard
The only running standard(s) we had when I was there were the quarterly run up and down the Blomberg (no set time) and the APFT two mile run IAW the Army scoring system for age groupings - my best time was 11:09 for two miles in combat boots and OG-107 fatigues.
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That's fast.
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05-16-2011, 11:05
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the exam was over SF common skills.
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05-16-2011, 12:14
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RE: Trojan Warrior Test
We used to do something similar in the 7th whenever we came off of a support cycle and went into a 'go' cycle. The usual drill was a week long and consisted of: - Team Alert
- Isolation/Pre-Mission Prep/PT Test
- Parachute Infil
- Tactical Movement to conduct link-up w/G's
- Skills testing (common and MOS specific; hands on and written)
- Wpns qual + live fires (IADs/mortars)
I don't remember what they were called; Group ran them and we referred to them as 'Slingshots'.
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08-16-2011, 02:19
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6 mile run
Hello,
I served in 1/10 between 1987-1990. There was a period that our "higher ups" developed an ODA validation. Part of that process was a timed 6 mile run under 50 minutes. You may be thinking of that. I only had to run it once. I think it was Feb 1989 (?) that B Co did it.
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08-16-2011, 06:18
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Hello,
I served in 1/10 between 1987-1990. There was a period that our "higher ups" developed an ODA validation. Part of that process was a timed 6 mile run under 50 minutes. You may be thinking of that. I only had to run it once. I think it was Feb 1989 (?) that B Co did it.
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08-17-2011, 16:39
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Trojan Warrior
I remember it well, the Gummymeyer hill run that started at the water station at the end of upper housing (10K). PT test that afternoon, then range with the test then a three day hump to just south of Munich and back. Tore my feet up we had just spent the week before in the water at Chiemsee. I seem to remember the 015 using their Nubian from the survival packs? Anyway 013 “won” so they got to go to Bragg and do it all over again, never laughed so hard when we found out. Coach Helt and Jean Wilson were so pissed. Ya, good times.
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08-18-2011, 00:38
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Validation Trojan Warrior
I remember the first day being an APFT, swim test, range, 100 question SQT-related test with 6 or so pull ups before the test, then the 10k under 50 minutes. The next three days were hands-on skills tests before, between and after two 10 mile legs each day. I always thought my feet were pretty hard until I finished the 60th mile.......
My biggset complaint was that Bn staff kept on changing what we were to do giving the appearance of a bunch of staff weenies dreaming up things to do without testing things out themselves of course. Never mind that no one had the manuals that the questions were to come from.
Anyway.....
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08-19-2011, 22:13
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You would also think that the Bn Cdr and CSM would be at the gate when teams came in from those 3 days of marching. Never saw them, did have a good time. Bennett, yeah there were a few that did go into those packs. I do remember SFC Allen having racks of beer in the Isar River for us when we got to the 18B site.
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