04-30-2010, 20:32
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What to Do?
Okay, disaster planning check here.
Obviously, we need to have a plan for disaster preparation so that we can make the right moves to maximize our likelihood of survival.
BTW, it isn't hoarding if you are buying and storing in times of plenty.
You have whatever is on your possession already. Events unfold over the evening that shock you when you turn on the TV tomorrow morning. Your trigger events are occurring/have occurred. You are in Condition Orange. It would appear that a political/economic/societal collapse or natural disaster is imminent. For planning purposes, assume that you are soon going to have to get by without public utilities or reliable resupply for an unknown period. The situation is permissive, in that you can take whatever lawful action you choose, at least for the next few hours. It is a weekday. There is no immediate threat to your life, stores are still stocked, cash (or credit cards) are still being accepted, but people are increasingly aware that there is a problem and are getting more and more anxious.
You have a little time and whatever resources you have or can gather.
What do you do? What do you do first?
Place your actions in priority order, most important to least important, just as you would in planning.
Anyone care to share?
TR
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05-01-2010, 04:49
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Interesting Question
Interesting Question
The key would be that only a couple of hours warning can make a big difference.
Those who live in the southeast coastal areas see that when a Hurricane approaches their area. Get yours in the morning and watch the crowd fight over the last loaf of bread in the afternoon.
I'd take the pickup to Sams and get about 24 big bags of dog food, similar rice, lots of cooking oil and assorted cases of canned meat and veggies. Fill all vehicles and gas containers. Test generator. Check news and then buy freezer foods and general staples from local store. Get cash. On the way back from the bank swing by Lowe's and pick up a shit pot load of various seed packs for next year.
I would consider all of the above just "Topping Off" and except for the rice would be used up anyway.
People - You can practice on a small garden. You will have the experience to prepare more of your back yard over the winter and expand the garden the following spring.
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05-01-2010, 05:39
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Concur with Pete's plan. Want to make sure I can pack all that stuff in my Jeep/truck. Would assemble the Grab Bag (fanny pack) (which in my plan is a beginning element of the Back Pack which is the beginning element of the BOB (Box) which is a pair of 100qt coolers) and make a drive along the most suitable evacuation route. The goal is to get to an area where I can wait safely for a time to re-group and better assess the situation. Purpose of the drive is to ID most recent landmarks and road conditions, detours, etc and validate the map, considering alternative routes, etc. The route should follow less traveled passes, avoiding potential high congestion choke-points along Interstates, major river crossing structures, etc. There's a trade off between the quickest route and the route that would offer the lower profile. As is mentioned elswhere on this topic, what you have may be of value to others.
(Still making notes re: this thought...good thread.)
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Last edited by LarryW; 05-01-2010 at 05:42.
Reason: Upon return to home plate I'd make whatever changes to evacuation plan is necessary. (Plan, test, revise)
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05-01-2010, 06:46
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FWIW
FWIW, attached is the BOB plan I'm working on. The idea is to have critical items spread out over more than one method of carry. Notion is that if one method is compromised then there is some form of back-up. Given the scenario, the objective at this early stage would be to locate all the required contents so that a Bug Out (if necessary) could be accomplished in the minimum amount of time, and review/validate an evacuation route.
This is a work in progress and admittedly not good enough right now to consider final.
FWIW only.
DRAFT BOB Plan.pdf
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Last edited by LarryW; 05-01-2010 at 06:59.
Reason: I'm not one for a "garrison mentality". Would rather evac early than late.
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05-01-2010, 07:06
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Cooking Fire
A cooking fire is something that takes practice and cooking over it.
Bags of Charcoal and standard propane bottles will run out pretty quick.
One, repeat one, piece of regular seasoned wood will provide enough fire to fry a pan of Spam, cook a small pot of rice and heat some water for clean up.
Trick is to take an ax to it and split it into finger size pieces. Use about half to get the fire going, start frying and boiling water, adding pieces as needed and then finish any slow cooking with the coals. Kinda' flash fire cooking.
Cooking large meals for many people will require lots of fire wood and bigger fires.
This can be practiced now. Get one of those $3 grills at the local food store. Pick up dead sticks in your yard or get one of those $5 bundles of wood when you get the grill. Get everything ready, build a wood fire in it and cook the meal. Kids will love helping - its an "adventure".
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05-01-2010, 07:24
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Good, solid thinking.
Pete hit the nail on the head. Any prediction of snow around here and the stores are immediately stripped of mik, bread, and eggs, or as someone called it earlier, French Toast buying. Hurricane coming and all of the above, plus batteries, flashlights, generators, plywood, bottled water, etc., get cleaned out.
Anyone considered putting any water away before the municipal water supply fails?
Sometimes, I wish I had a well on my property.
With an uncertain situation, might be a good time to check your carry weapon and consider adding extra ammo, a vest, and a long gun to the vehicle loadout.
Do you take everyone in the house with you, or leave someone at home to hold down the fort and make preparations there?
TR
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05-01-2010, 09:11
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Since it is in the evening and everyone is home.
If it is natural disaster related Tornado's and Ice Storms
Have the wife head to the gas station to fill up and then to the store to pick up some food goods and some more batteries. I would run by the bank do an ATM withdrawal, then hit the gas station to fill up the truck, the gas cans and a propane tank or two if needed. Listen to the radio while I am out.
If it is political unrest related.
Call my cousins to see what is going on down in their rural area and determine if we are better off staying put or heading to the hills. If we leave town, we load up the go gear, hit the ATM, the Gas Station and then hit the road. If we stay put we follow the above plan.
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