02-21-2010, 20:59
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Muslims in the SF
Don't shoot me, I know this might be a ridiculous question, but are there any Muslims in the SF like in the rest of the Military?
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02-21-2010, 21:18
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Originally Posted by DevilSide
Don't shoot me, I know this might be a ridiculous question, but are there any Muslims in the SF like in the rest of the Military?
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Yes, there are also Christian, Jew, Hindu and Buddhist.
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02-21-2010, 21:35
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Yes, there are also Christian, Jew, Hindu and Buddhist.
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Does it ever conflict with the overall mission/goals?
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02-21-2010, 21:54
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What mission/goals are you speaking of?
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Does it ever conflict with the overall mission/goals?
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02-21-2010, 22:31
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For example, counter-insurgency in Afghanistan. Is the Soldier considered a security risk because he is a Muslim, or seen as an asset that can level with the people?
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02-21-2010, 23:11
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DevilSide -
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For example, counter-insurgency in Afghanistan. Is the Soldier considered a security risk because he is a Muslim, or seen as an asset that can level with the people?
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Counter-insurgency, (US) vs. Insurgents, (THEM). These are the actions of individuals and groups, not idealogies of/or religion. Taliban forces, force recruit agents of all ages. Failure to not 'enlist' results in your family being killed.
Believe me when I say, we have agents too. We recruit local assets, these brave souls fight and bleed, some die to preserve their freedoms and our national security abroad. These agents have bleed more than any bumper toting yellow ribbon "I support the troops" truck driver or soccer mom in America.
SF has several missions. Tell me, where does Counter-Insurgency fall under? Before you answer, Counter Insurgency is a campaign, not a mission. We construct plans and mission objectives to succeed with accomplishing Cdr's Intent, and Campaign goals. We use one or more mission styles to accomplish our goals, we may use them in tandem or in parallel. We may switch from one mission style to another, but only at the discretion of ODA Tm Ldrs and Tm Sgts. Or we may use all in a given threatre over a specified amount of time or negociated with village chieftans.
Now before you post agian. I want you to write a short essay, NLT 500 words, and not more that 750 words, on "The Role of Village Chieftans in the threatre of Special Forces Areas of Assignments", and send it to me in an PM.
Note:
(1) You will not use the words, "Islam" or "Muslim" at any time in the essay.
(2) Nor will you make any reference to SF soldiers of certain faiths.
(3) I have intentionally given you true and false statements within the body of my post. I want you to find and correct.
(4) When quoting authors, please give sources.
I think next Friday will give you enough time.
Wet Dog
Last edited by wet dog; 02-21-2010 at 23:13.
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02-21-2010, 22:31
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Don't shoot me, I know this might be a ridiculous question, but are there any Muslims in the SF like in the rest of the Military?
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DevilSide:
Why would this matter to you unless you were a Muslim?
TR
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02-21-2010, 22:34
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DevilSide:
Why would this matter to you unless you were a Muslim?
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It does not matter to me, I'm atheist, and am just curious. It almost seems like there is some sort of prejudice against Muslims here in the US because of current events and I wandered if this applied in our armed forces.
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02-21-2010, 22:35
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Shoot him. 
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02-21-2010, 22:37
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02-21-2010, 22:41
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It does not matter to me, I'm atheist, and am just curious. It almost seems like there is some sort of prejudice against Muslims here in the US because of current events and I wandered if this applied in our armed forces.
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In case you missed it, this is not a good site to engage in hypothetical questions to entertain your idle curiosity.
If your university had members shot and killed by Muslim students on a regular basis, would you consider your suspicion of them as "prejudice" or just reasonable caution?
TR
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