11-12-2009, 14:16
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11-12-2009, 15:07
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Someone has been playing Call of Duty- Modern Warfare 2. 
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11-12-2009, 15:24
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I am much more frightened by the bald/mullet man that is possibly related to the bald/mullet character from the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
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11-12-2009, 15:42
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Originally Posted by rubberneck
Someone has been playing Call of Duty- Modern Warfare 2. |
Negative good sir, don't play video games anymore, I view it as waste of time. I am interested in its application in a close urban environment.
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11-12-2009, 15:46
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Originally Posted by spherojon
Negative good sir, don't play video games anymore, I view it as waste of time. I am interested in its application in a close urban environment.
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How many rounds can you carry?
What do you do when a friendly is adjacent to the desired target?
What do you do if your opponent is about to engage you from more than 50 meters?
Since you are not even in the military yet, and this is not an issue weapon, why do you care?
TR
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11-13-2009, 05:13
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
What do you do when a friendly is adjacent to the desired target?
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This is why you keep a sidearm and train to shoot from a low position - any round that goes through and through will have a higher chance of taking a trajectory over the crowd's heads and not into them.
I agree - very few practical applications for this shotgun - I don't even think it has a high CDI factor (CDI=Chicks Dig It.)
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11-13-2009, 14:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
How many rounds can you carry?
What do you do when a friendly is adjacent to the desired target?
What do you do if your opponent is about to engage you from more than 50 meters?
Since you are not even in the military yet, and this is not an issue weapon, why do you care?
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Good Sir,
I have a general interest in weapons, how they are designed, maintained, and a general interest in weapon applications. I am not claiming by any means that I am an expert, nor that I have shot every single weapon out there. But I do enjoy shooting shotguns as well as a variation of rifles and other small arms.
Thank you for your time.
P.S. how did this go from AA12 to CoD 4: Modern Warefare 2? (CoD 6?)
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11-12-2009, 21:20
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Originally Posted by rubberneck
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It should be noted that the entire male population of our barracks (and probably the army) are currently burning the midnight oil playing this game.
Exaggeration maybe, but not by much.
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11-12-2009, 21:32
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Originally Posted by caveman
It should be noted that the entire male population of our barracks (and probably the army) are currently burning the midnight oil playing this game.
Exaggeration maybe, but not by much.
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Yeah I am going to go ahead and say that it is not an exaggeration.. everyone is playing this game around here (Bragg).
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11-13-2009, 10:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caveman
It should be noted that the entire male population of our barracks (and probably the army) are currently burning the midnight oil playing this game.
Exaggeration maybe, but not by much.
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Crap... we just used to read FM's and play poker. The times, they are a changin'!
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11-27-2009, 13:02
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Originally Posted by ZonieDiver
Crap... we just used to read FM's and play poker. The times, they are a changin'!
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Yeah. And shoot real guns. 
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11-12-2009, 21:47
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Originally Posted by spherojon
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I own a Saiga-12 and sort of regret the purchase now. I really don't have a use for it. TR in post 6 brings up several excellent points.
Being in CA, you might have a better chance of getting a Saiga than the AA-12.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiga-12
In action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5LwV0OS3m0
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11-26-2009, 19:59
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Oh, it is not called the Atchisson Assault 12 anymore. He (Atchisson) was bought out, it is now called the Auto Assault 12. Back when I was a kid, this was the weapon of choice when we played guns. Oh, also the Pancor Jackhammer. Remember that one? Used disposable drums, or if I remember correctly "cassettes".
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11-26-2009, 20:56
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Again, not an expert by any means...
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Originally Posted by Claemore
Oh, it is not called the Atchisson Assault 12 anymore. He (Atchisson) was bought out, it is now called the Auto Assault 12. Back when I was a kid, this was the weapon of choice when we played guns. Oh, also the Pancor Jackhammer. Remember that one? Used disposable drums, or if I remember correctly "cassettes".
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Yeah, Max Atchisson took a break from being crazy to hand off the designs to someone else. As I understand it, it broke off into two designs (either post- or pre-Max leaving)—the USAS-12 and the AA-12.
The Jackhammer's an interesting one, another case of a firearm that appears far more in video games than real life. As I remember, you could use a loaded drum magazine as an anti-personnel mine, which is pretty damn cool but, then again, doesn't strike me as totally practical (especially for the role that an automatic shotgun would theoretically fill, if any military actually adopted one in significant numbers).
The "compensator" on the jackhammer still throws me for a loop. It looks like it would increase muzzle rise...
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