11-08-2009, 20:49
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The "New and Improved" ACU
I searched around, of course, hopefully I didn't miss these articles. Looks like it may not be the pattern alone that we see changing. These seem like some great ideas all around, and slow or not, its great that PEO seems to be legitimately interested in what will serve Soldiers better.
http://soldiersystems.net/2008/05/22/acu-testing/
http://soldiersystems.net/2009/09/02...-pants-update/
http://soldiersystems.net/2009/11/06...ement-program/
The last link is the most recent article.
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-D. W. Brogan, The American Character
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11-08-2009, 21:00
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11-08-2009, 21:35
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Actually a step past queer into stupid land. 
Who comes up with this stuff?
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11-08-2009, 21:38
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Actually a step past queer into stupid land.
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PEO soldier.
Must be hallucinogenics in the water, or they are letting people in the Pentagon pick the design. That would explain the built-in kneepads.
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11-08-2009, 22:12
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Leave it alone..
If it ain't broke.... the pants could be a bit stronger to help against tearing but other than that why does the Army feel the need to waste money on pointless projects?
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11-10-2009, 08:24
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Why not just go with the same desing in multi cam? It is too simple and effective of a solution? Hey why not the old jungle fatigues in multicam or even OD? Jesus de madre what are they thinking? Its not that hard to figure out.
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Look up what a pair of Crye pants cost and get back to me.
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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910
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11-09-2009, 06:17
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Quote:
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PEO soldier.
Must be hallucinogenics in the water, or they are letting people in the Pentagon pick the design. That would explain the built-in kneepads.TR
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first post I read today. This is going to be a good day.
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11-09-2009, 10:37
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I am surprised at some of the responses.
I have never run pants with built in knee pads (e.g. the Crye ones) but I am certainly familiar with the downsides to external ones mentioned in the article. I wear the Hatch neoprene pads and have had the same pair for years now and they are going strong. These velcro, and I had additional velcro added to make them tighter so they won't slip down and so the tails of the strap don't just flap in the wind. However, it happens every now and then that the velcro still catches a twig and pulls open. And after a long movement or day in the field, the trapped sweat sets up some nice potential for cellulitis or heat rash from the straps. It seems to me that built in pads would indeed mitigate all of this.
One of the other major things I saw for the pants in the articles is that they are reinforcing the crotch more and going back to buttons on the cargo pockets. I mean you can't complain about that can you??? The velcro is/was terrible.
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For Americans war is almost all of the time a nuisance, and military skill is a luxury like Mah-Jongg. But when the issue is brought home to them, war becomes as important, for the necessary period, as business or sport. And it is hard to decide which is likely to be the more ominous for the [terrorists] -- an American decision that this is sport, or that it is business.
-D. W. Brogan, The American Character
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