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Old 08-31-2009, 10:35   #1
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Socialism is getting a hard push in theaters. Coming Soon:

I saw on Drudge this morning that Michael Moore set down his two fists of jelly donuts long enough to make a "documentary" about capitalism, Matt Damon has a new movie coming out about corporate evils and now Oliver Stone is making a movie about the greatness of hugo chavez called "South of the Border."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_o...der_(2009_film)

I don't see why Chavez & co dislike America when it seems like their biggest fans are here.

Hopefully this push in Washington and Hollywood to show us ignorant Americans the error of free enterprise will bring "change we can count on" in 2010 and 2012.
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Old 08-31-2009, 15:19   #2
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...Matt Damon....

Hopefully this push in Washington and Hollywood to show us ignorant Americans the error of free enterprise will bring "change we can count on" in 2010 and 2012.
While I very strongly disagree with Mr. Damon's politics, I don't know how a guy whose work in one of America's most economically and politically conservative industries has grossed $1,952,355,251 in domestic ticket sales alone qualifies as a socialist.*


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Old 08-31-2009, 15:22   #3
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A wise young Bosnian chick once told me that "it's easy to be liberal when you are rich..."


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While I very strongly disagree with Mr. Damon's politics, I don't know how a guy whose work in one of America's most economically and politically conservative industries has grossed $1,952,355,251 in domestic ticket sales alone qualifies as a socialist.*


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Old 08-31-2009, 23:11   #4
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While I very strongly disagree with Mr. Damon's politics, I don't know how a guy whose work in one of America's most economically and politically conservative industries has grossed $1,952,355,251 in domestic ticket sales alone qualifies as a socialist.*
That's just goofy. Are you suggesting that an actor would not be a socialist because that conflicts with his making money in a capitalist enterprise like the movie industry?
Is he only capable of being a socialist if he works in a hookah pipe store or a coffee house? In any event, my point was that there are a number of films that have an anti-free enterprise slant. I see it as a trend. I've been wrong before.

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Old 08-31-2009, 23:36   #5
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C'mon now, it's Hollywood. Did you expect anything BUT a slant against conservatism/capitalism?

A successful actor/actress is not required to have enough foresight to anticipate the repercussions of their actions (acting). They just need to be good at acting (lying).

Some would argue the same traits can be found in successful CEOs and politicians.

There definitely aren't enough movies like Black Hawk Down, or shows like Band of Brothers. That's just because most people are more intrigued by Twilight and American Idol. Man, if these people had any idea what was really going on in the world, they'd _____!
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Old 09-01-2009, 00:41   #6
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The $9,370,107,098 question.*

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That's just goofy.
That reminds me of the late Mauricio Mazón's favorite joke.
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Did you hear that Mickey and Minnie are getting a divorce? Yeah, she's [expletive deleted] Goofy.
He'd often repeat the joke while emphasizing the importance of using words and concepts correctly.
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Are you suggesting that an actor would not be a socialist because that conflicts with his making money in a capitalist enterprise like the movie industry?
Is he only capable of being a socialist if he works in a hookah pipe store or a coffee house? In any event, my point was that there are a number of films that have an anti-free enterprise slant. I see it as a trend. I've been wrong before.
I am suggesting that you are using the term "socialist" imprecisely and carelessly. I am also suggesting that what you see as an "anti-free enterprise slant" is in a different league altogether than the radical left movies that the film industry chased from the field in the early decades of the last century.**
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C'mon now, it's Hollywood. Did you expect anything BUT a slant against conservatism/capitalism?
Then maybe that's why:
  • The AMPTP has played hardball with the writers' and actors' unions over royalties.
  • Scripted television shows have been overshadowed by (less expensive and more profitable) reality programming.
  • First-run films and television shows are not exhibited for free.
  • Shows and films that are offered for "free" via new media portals like hulu.com, TWC On Demand, or a service's website are part of a broader effort to find new revenue streams in the digital age.
MOO, just because nitwits in the Thirty Mile Zone are more than happy to hold forth on topics on which they're woefully under-informed does not mean we have to return the favor. YMMV.
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Old 09-01-2009, 10:39   #7
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You are either missing the point, or trying to pick gnat shit out of pepper. I suspect its the latter. Have a good day.
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Old 09-01-2009, 13:00   #8
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You are either missing the point, or trying to pick gnat shit out of pepper. I suspect its the latter. Have a good day.
I'm doing neither. Successfully taking the entertainment industry to task for its role in shaping American culture, politics, and society eventually requires more than dismissive, Drudge-fueled sarcasm.
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