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Digital Cameras
What does a QP need in the way of a digital camera?
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06-26-2004, 05:26
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Not a QP but in working with photos, TRs does a very good job and from what I understand it's very affordable.
I would look for a camera that's easy to use, allows you to turn off the annoying little sounds it makes, has plenty of storage capability, good optical zoom, the ability to take short 5 to 10 second videos would be a good feature. Waterproof or semi-waterproof is probably a factor. Some companies are starting to put out cams with low/no light capabilities.
One thing people tend to overlook is how do you get the pics off the camera and into the PC. Some companies use proprietary cables. If you can't find the cable hanging on the wall in compusa or walmart then pick another one. The cable always goes bad.
At the Guard unit I was with we had a large flight case with a Nikon in it. It had every conceivable attachment known to mankind. Looking back, everything in that case is now contained in a canera that you can carry like a pack of smokes.
Of course that's just my 2 cents.
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06-26-2004, 07:35
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Re: Digital Cameras
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I agree with K on most of that.
A camera is like a gun in that the small, cheap one you have with you is better than the best, most expensive one you left at home.
I like having the max possible optical zoom within the class, the most MP I can afford, common rechargeable batteries, which can be replaced by dry cells like AAs if necessary, and a common media like a SmartCard or XD which will allow at least 50 pics to be stored, more if possible.
It would be nice if a water/weather proof model were available, but there are few good choices with that capability. I just use a Ziplock bag
There are a lot of Digicam review sites which allow you to see what is available within the class and price range you select.
I am currently using a Fuji FinePix 2600, which is a small point and shoot 2MP camera, easily carried and used, cost about $200 new.
I am looking to upgrade to a larger, more advanced camera for home/pre-planned use. Currently, it is looking like the Fuji FinePix S5000, which is a 3 MP camera with a 10x optical zoom, costing about $300.
HTH.
TR
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06-26-2004, 07:41
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Canon PowerShot S500 5MP Digital Elph with 3x Optical Zoom
for under $500?
5-megapixel sensor captures enough detail to create photo-quality 13-by-17-inch enlargements
Canon 3x optical zoom lens combines with 4x digital zoom for 12x total zoom
9-point autofocus; movie mode; PictBridge compatible
Store images on Compact Flash Type I memory cards (32 MB card included)
Powered by rechargeable battery pack NB-1LH (included with charger)
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12-25-2004, 21:19
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I've been using a Minolta Dimage X with a 3X zoom for all my travel. Its very small, yet the shots come out crystal clear. Its billed as the lightest, thinnest, smallest (at least when I bought it) camera on the market. If I could figure out how to attach photos - I'll put some up.
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12-26-2004, 03:58
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I just changed cameras, from Canon Powershot S400 to Canon SD300.....The SD300 does absolutely everything the S400 did in a smaller package. The SD300 uses different memory (SD card vs compact flash) and battery than the S400, but the cost per MB of memory is about the same and the battery is also roughly the same.
The SD 300 has a larger LCD screen than even the S500, if you want a 4 MP compact camera take a look at the SD300.
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12-26-2004, 17:34
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As an UW Camera
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Originally Posted by FrontSight
Hi NDD, I use this model for all my travel and knife pics. The Canon Digital Elphs are my fave on the market for form-factor (SMALL!), resolution (5 megapixel) and picture quality.
When traveling I keep it in my jacket pocket, and it's been hit by enough things and still kept working that I'd say it's also somewhat rugged. All the video on my website was taken with this camera. This version offers 3 resolution modes for video. Didn't realize how handy that would be when you want to keep bandwidth lower.
PLUS, they just had a price drop and are now $399. Definitely a sweet spot for $ / megapixel.
Above 5 megapixels and you start to get lots more expensive, last time I checked.
When Canon comes out with a new Digital Elph model, I sell my old one and immediately get the new one. So I've used about 4 of them so far and have been happy with them all.
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I have the Canon Digital Elph S-400 for awhile now and I'm very happy with it. I also have the Canon UW case that they make of that camera. It seems to work great UW too! I see no need to rush out and buy the S-500 at this time. 
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12-29-2004, 16:10
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I've been looking to get a new digital camera for awhile now and have been following this thread with interest.
My question is, does the Canon S 1 have a delay when you hit the button? I HATE that, makes you lose shots and it's very annoying. Is it possible to adjust the cameras so there is no delay?
I was using some Canon powershot a-75's and a-80's this week and they had a serious delay.
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12-29-2004, 16:13
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BadMuther-
Are you talking about the delay for the auto focus before it takes the pic or the delay after the pic before you can take another one?
Last edited by Sacamuelas; 12-29-2004 at 16:38.
Reason: spelling error
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12-29-2004, 16:23
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BadMother-
Are you talking about the delay for the auto focus before it takes the pic or the delay after the pic before you can take another one?
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Delay for the auto focus bro, before the picture is taken, sorry for not specifying.
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08-22-2006, 13:58
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Love my Sony W50....you cant go wrong...great camera. The only down side to it is that it only uses Sony's Memory Stick Pro Duo, not mini SD or CF. It's 6.0 Megapixels and tiny, also has the Carl Ziess Lens. Almost identical to the new 6 megapixel Canon Digital Elphs for about $150 less
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08-23-2006, 00:00
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Thanks so much for posting the info on the grey market items, TS.
I'm shopping for a new digital camera and that info helps alot.
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08-23-2006, 08:16
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Just bought a new Canon Powershot S3 IS to replace my old S1 IS, which was on its last legs.
Used newegg.com, so far, so good.
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08-23-2006, 11:12
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I share your enthusiam for the Canon Digital Elph cameras!
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+1 on this list for me.
I've had Sony, Canon, and Pentax, and the Canons have always outperformed my other cameras by a large margin. I had some complaints with the early Digital Elph models due to extremely poor low-light autofocus performance, but all of those issues have been solved.
I recently purchased Canon's Powerhot S80 and couldn't be happier. 8.0 MP, extremely ergonomic feel, fully manual control, large screen, and tons of options. It's most of the power of a DSLR, but it will fit in my pocket; and that's exactly what I was looking for.
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08-27-2006, 20:25
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NDD,
There are some great suggestions but I have a couple of more things I see as important that many here are glossing over. The big factors for me are:
-My PDA uses SD cards, my phone uses SD cards so therefore my camera uses them as well. I like to have some commonality and now I have the ability to take a picture and email it right away if needed. (This is great for site surveys) I can also slip the SD card out and break it quickly if I don't want to share the pictures with an unrelated but interested party...
-AA batteries! I hate rechargables since it seems that they are always used up when I need them. Murphy might turn on my camera in a pocket but a battery change is quick and easy with AA's. I always have plenty of them on me for NVG's and EO-Tech's anyways...
-The ability to easily and completely turn off the flash. I have played with a couple of cameras that make it seem like you are programming an ICBM when trying to kill the flash.
-The MP count is pretty important for me since I often take very high resolution extreme close up photos. I try to keep the MP count as high as I can afford without compromising the other factors listed above.
-Size, because as TR said up higher, the camera you have on you is the best one to have. (paraphrased)
Good luck and let us know if you decide to come into the 21st century!
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