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Old 01-30-2009, 22:48   #1
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MK-19 Army Suggestion NWCN05015M

Got a Email from them they forwarded my idea up to MACOM and if it passes it will go up to big army for review.


This email was generated from the U.S. Army Suggestion Program (ASP) website for your attention.

Recommended adoption, but approval not within jurisdiction of installation - suggestion forwarded to regional level for further evaluation.

Thank you for contributing to the U.S. Army Suggestion Program.

Took them long enuff it was in 2005 when I wrote to them.
Here is what my idea was let me post it ....

Suggestion ID: NWCN05015M


Submit Date: 2005-09-15 14:07:16.0


Installation or Activity: FORT CARSON


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Active Military


Subject of Suggestion:
MK-19 Grenade Launcher Loading Procedure



Current Procedure:
Currently the army wide procedure is to load the linked ammunition onto the MK-19 feed tray, close the feed tray cover then charge the handles to the rear moving the rounds into battery and then depressing the trigger to slam the bolt forward onto the first round. after the round is seated on the bolt face the operator then charges the weapon again and puts the weapon on safe. you now have a round that is striped off the links, and cannot be replaced onto the ammunition belt. Unloading the gunner opens the feed tray cover removes the linked ammunition from the feed tray then has to pry the single round off the bolt face. most operators now have a single round they have no use for so they throw it in a box to be disposed of later. this over a deployment can add up fast if the squad or team goes out on patrols everyday they will end up with many cans of single rounds of ammunition that can't be used. so they eather have it disposed of them or have EOD blow up these single rounds.........

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Proposed Procedure:
My suggestion is to save a single round and use it again and again instead of throwing all the single rounds away, what you need to do is get a wire cutter and cut the metal link off one single round. this enables you to load this same round over again I will explain the procedure for doing this. you have a single MK-19 round with the metal link cut off the round. open the MK-19 feed tray cover pull the charging handles to the rear place the single round into the feed tray so the round and bolt are aligned with eachother now ride the bolt forward so the bolt seats this single round onto the bolt face. next load the linked ammunition as you would normally. close the feed tray cover and pull charging handles to the rear and put the weapon on safe returning the charging handles to the forward position, the weapon is now loaded and ready to fire. Unloading open feed tray cover remove linked ammunition from the feed tray remove single round from the bolt face do not discard this round it can be used again and again or until it needs to be replaced because of wear.

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Benefits if Adopted:
I have no idea how many units army wide use the procedure in the Current Procedure line. or how many MK-19 we have deployed or use on a day to day patrol of Iraq and other places around the world. But I know the amount of rounds wasted has to be over 100,000 rounds per year this may be only a low est. if you have 4,000 MK-19 systems go on patrol only 25 times a year thats 100,000 rounds destroyed. what is the cost of 100,000 rounds of MK-19 ammunition. I have no idea what the govt pays for these rounds, but we would be saving millions on the cost of lost or wasted ammunition if this new loading procedure is used.

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NOTE: I have done this many times on deployments and it works but it has not been approved yet, Could be a safty risk involved someone with a large brain may see something they dont like about what I do with this weapon system. So use at your own risk or dont do it unless you know what the hell your doing with the MK-19. IE new graduate from the course.

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Old 01-30-2009, 23:41   #2
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKFLDpZ-n6c

This is used when no rounds are fired and you must dispose of the one round that has been fed forward; Correct?
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Old 01-31-2009, 08:51   #3
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Great idea.

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Old 02-01-2009, 10:15   #4
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We use the dunnage round with the exact process you have, but we keep the metal link on it...
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:39   #5
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We use the dunnage round with the exact process you have, but we keep the metal link on it...
I would advise cutting off the link Green Tip then you dont have to worry about link placement and the chance of it getting all hung up when you have to fire the weapon, last thing you want is CHUNK !!! oh no my round is jammed and it always happens when you dont want it too.

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Old 02-04-2009, 11:17   #6
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I told my chain of command about your advice dealing with cutting the link, and they simply told me "we're not certified to do that"... Great idea though! Do you just LSA the chrome spots? I do the entire bolt+chrome.
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