01-23-2009, 22:31
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.22 Pistol for 14 y/o
I'm looking for recommendations for a .22 pistol to start a 14 y/o boy that has never shot. Eventually I will transition him to the .45.
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01-23-2009, 23:10
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I Do this alot.
All my nefews and grand sons (daughters too if they show interest). At 9 yo I start them out with a Red Rider and teach them not to shoot their eyes out. When they're safe at 10 I get them a 22 Ruger 10/22 of their very own and about 11 they start shooting a Ruger MKI or II. They shoot mine, I don't buy them Pistols. I would like any semi Browning ,High Standard, At 13 i've moved 'um up to M-9s heading to the pappa Colt. Blitzzz
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01-23-2009, 23:16
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Just a thought but what about converting one of your .45 to .22?
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01-23-2009, 23:34
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Beretta Model 71, .22 LR. Feels like a larger weapon to hold and manipulate, but fires like a gentle .22.
Single action only, but a really nice work of engineering.
http://www.berettaweb.com/mod_70/mod_70_P5.htm
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01-23-2009, 23:39
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I have a S&W 22A that I bought for the wife. She loves to shoot her 9mm more than I love to pay for the ammo. Have had no issues with it and have spent many days with her plinking. There are a few upgrades for it but perhaps not as many as for the Ruger.
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01-24-2009, 19:33
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Just a thought but what about converting one of your .45 to .22?
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I was thinking about that too.
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01-24-2009, 19:42
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Thanks for the recommendations. Billy, I like the looks of the Ruger. I'm going to look around for a while. I really like the SA Operator and I want to be as happy with the next one.
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01-24-2009, 22:52
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I was thinking about that too.
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The .22 conversion would be my recommendation as well.
I run a Kart .22LR conversion on top of an aluminum 1911 frame and my kids love it.
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01-25-2009, 10:10
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My recommendation would be the Ruger MkII or the 22/45.
We sold 100+ of those some years back and the warranty issues have been almost nonexistant.
The design is very robust and will keep ticking for a long time.
I bought a used MkII, made in 1991, a couple of years back and it has also been 100% reliable.
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01-23-2009, 23:15
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http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...10&isFirearm=Y
This was the first hand gun that I ever owned and it has treated me well... except I was 19 and I bought it because I knew I could shot the snot out of it for a couple bucks at the walmart counter.
Though I do agree with the start off with pellets... when your a kid all you wanna do is play Joe and run around the back yard shooting stuff.
with proper safety of course...  scouts honor ::raising three fingers::
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01-24-2009, 19:32
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http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...10&isFirearm=Y
This was the first hand gun that I ever owned and it has treated me well... except I was 19 and I bought it because I knew I could shot the snot out of it for a couple bucks at the walmart counter.
Though I do agree with the start off with pellets... when your a kid all you wanna do is play Joe and run around the back yard shooting stuff.
with proper safety of course... scouts honor ::raising three fingers::
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The Kid does not run around in the backyard and "play Joe", he is a very serious Dude.
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01-23-2009, 23:57
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I'm looking for recommendations for a .22 pistol to start a 14 y/o boy that has never shot. Eventually I will transition him to the .45.
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NDD,
What I did, with Air.177 and his younger brother and sister, over several years each, basically led up to where you want to be.
I started them on small Pocket Pistols (Beretta 21, or Colt single action revolvers, shooting CB caps (Aguila or Winchester ) that use nothing more than the primer for propulsion. The round will not even cycle the semi-auto weapons. After they had mastered the "small guns" and somewhat understood what was happening, I would shoot something. What I shot ranged from Javelina, Deer..etc. After I was sure that it was dead, I let my kids touch them, and they realized that they were no longer alive!!!
As they have gotten older, they all still have many fond memories of "The Mountains & Deer Hunting"!!!
One thing that I need to caution you about..please do not start letting him shoot "Big Handguns" !! Kids hands are growing and if you let him shoot "large/powerful" handguns you could induce some damage!!
Blake's first pistol was a 9mm that I had Magna-Ported and then loaded up light loads for it!!
Well, I'd better crash!! Take care Brother will catchupto'ya later.
Martin
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01-24-2009, 05:34
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I schooled my girls about the same as stated.. Started when they were 14 & 16 YO. Both light weights, the youngest was Cpt of the V cheerleaders at 5FT & 100 lbs as a senior in high-school. Took about one(1) yr. Very low key, fun week-ends, once a month, hour long classes.
Started with .22 bolt action rifles for safety and physical aspects, sight picture acquisition,, out door ranges.
Moved to .22 revolver, indoor range, stressed target accuracy, add multi shoot rounds to cylinder, them Ruger .22 auto, incremental speed on target.
Then to .38 Special, S&W 66, revolver, multi-reloads, and some full house .357 loads for recoil.
Finally, Moose, S&W 629, LSWC, Then JHP's Max'd. They could both put all 6 on a target at 25 feet in semi-rapid fire, double action.
My idea was to get gun safety 1st, fun & familiarity 2nd, personal safety & action drills, repeatability 3rd. I was not looking for a hunting buddy or NRA match competition.
I used 25ft targets and only asked for minuet of head (8"x8") accuracy. Most houses do not have rooms bigger than 25ft and most perps chests/lung/hart areas fit in 8x8..
The girls actually became very good, with groups in the 3-4 inch range.. Over time they became proficient with all my pistols & revolvers, in 10 different calibers. I was a happy.. 
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01-24-2009, 05:53
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JJ BPK My idea was to get gun safety 1st, fun & familiarity 2nd, personal safety & action drills, repeatability 3rd. I was not looking for a hunting buddy or NRA match competition.
I used 25ft targets and only asked for minuet of head (8"x8") accuracy. Most houses do not have rooms bigger than 25ft and most perps chests/lung/hart areas fit in 8x8..
JJ, I like your method and reasoning. I think I will use that as the guide for my wife. Its sensible.
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01-24-2009, 07:31
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Quote:
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I'm looking for recommendations for a .22 pistol to start a 14 y/o boy that has never shot. Eventually I will transition him to the .45.
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NDD, you deserve an answer to your question,, sorry..
I started my kids on a S&W M-63, Kit-Gun, .22 cal, 2" barrel. Then moved to a M-36, .38 Special. They are near mirror images of each other, so the fit, mechanics, and grip was was an easy migration to the larger .38.. At 23 Oz's(?),, They have just the right weight for recoil abatement in young hands, with-out the fatigue & recoil associated with something like a 43 oz 1911..
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