11-05-2008, 20:00
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Sarah Palin isn't looking too good
I just got done watching a Fox news report about the supposed rift between Sarah Palin and the McCain insiders and it wasn't pretty.
According the report the people in charge of getting her up to speed with the campaign were stunned about her lack of basic knowledge. It was reported that she couldn't name the countries involved in NAFTA, she misidentified Africa as a country and didn't understand the concept of American Exceptionalism. In short she was described as a very shallow woman, in way over her head and totally incapable of dealing with the stresses of a Presidential Campaign.
With that sort of rep leaking out of the McCain camp I wonder if she has any future in the Republican party at the national level.
The video isn't on the Fox website but it should be tomorrow.
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11-05-2008, 21:44
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Originally Posted by rubberneck
With that sort of rep leaking out of the McCain camp I wonder if she has any future in the Republican party at the national level.
The video isn't on the Fox website but it should be tomorrow.
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I saw that report. Have to wonder...is it true, and is she the scapegoat?
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11-05-2008, 21:47
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It's just staff CYA.
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11-06-2008, 12:33
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It's just staff CYA.
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Agreed!!
There is no call for this at all! The election was lost. Learn from this. Find the mistakes, and mis-steps, learn from them and move on. My politician father has said for many years now that there is no "P" in the GOP.
It is very clear that the Dems. won with a positive spin in the media, and party support. The GOP could not match that. What we are seeing now from the GOP, reminds me of school-yard bickering that goes nowhere, and solves nothing. Pailn was the GOP pick for VP. They are now trying to blame her for the loss. The loss is a GOP loss. The best way to impower Congress and the rest of the Democratic party, is to keep doing what you are doing, GOP. We'll see Dems in control for the next 20 years!!! 
My $.02.
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11-06-2008, 13:25
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Originally Posted by Red Flag 1
Agreed!!
There is no call for this at all! The election was lost. Learn from this. Find the mistakes, and mis-steps, learn from them and move on. My politician father has said for many years now that there is no "P" in the GOP.
It is very clear that the Dems. won with a positive spin in the media, and party support. The GOP could not match that. What we are seeing now from the GOP, reminds me of school-yard bickering that goes nowhere, and solves nothing. Pailn was the GOP pick for VP. They are now trying to blame her for the loss. The loss is a GOP loss. The best way to impower Congress and the rest of the Democratic party, is to keep doing what you are doing, GOP. We'll see Dems in control for the next 20 years!!!
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11-05-2008, 22:31
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Originally Posted by rubberneck
I just got done watching a Fox news report about the supposed rift between Sarah Palin and the McCain insiders and it wasn't pretty.
According the report the people in charge of getting her up to speed with the campaign were stunned about her lack of basic knowledge. It was reported that she couldn't name the countries involved in NAFTA, she misidentified Africa as a country and didn't understand the concept of American Exceptionalism. In short she was described as a very shallow woman, in way over her head and totally incapable of dealing with the stresses of a Presidential Campaign.
With that sort of rep leaking out of the McCain camp I wonder if she has any future in the Republican party at the national level.
The video isn't on the Fox website but it should be tomorrow.
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So why did they pick her? Staff is responsible for due diligence, and they screwed it up. This makes them look bad, not her.
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11-06-2008, 09:37
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So why did they pick her? Staff is responsible for due diligence, and they screwed it up. This makes them look bad, not her.
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If you believe the contemporaneous news reports the decision to pick Palin came from the big man himself with very little input from anyone outside his campaign manager. If anything it is an indictment on McCain not his staff.
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11-06-2008, 10:22
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I will be leaving the GOP. If this is what it's denegrated to, then they don't need me and I definitely don't want to be associated with them.
McCain should be ashamed of himself for allowing this to continue without addressing it.
Update: There is hope. Apparently there is a group organizing called "Project Leper" who are out to ostracize those trying to disparage Palin. They are looking to make sure these lepers never work a campaign again. I sincerely hope they succeed.
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11-05-2008, 22:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubberneck
I just got done watching a Fox news report about the supposed rift between Sarah Palin and the McCain insiders and it wasn't pretty.
According the report the people in charge of getting her up to speed with the campaign were stunned about her lack of basic knowledge. It was reported that she couldn't name the countries involved in NAFTA, she misidentified Africa as a country and didn't understand the concept of American Exceptionalism. In short she was described as a very shallow woman, in way over her head and totally incapable of dealing with the stresses of a Presidential Campaign.
With that sort of rep leaking out of the McCain camp I wonder if she has any future in the Republican party at the national level.
The video isn't on the Fox website but it should be tomorrow.
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I wouldn't expect anything less from the folks that ran a completly inept campaign. Had they let Sarah be Sarah and McCain be McCain instead of trying to mold them into what they thought everyone wanted them to be things might have been different. From what I understand, the reason she did so poorly in the initial interviews was because they tried to change her. When they finally let her be herself in the debate with Biden is when she truly shined.
Wouldn't want anyone to man (or woman) up and say it was their fault now would we? It's easier to toss the person who energized the base more than anyone in recent memory under the bus. If they realized she was so dense then maybe they should have allowed McCain to pick Lieberman to be his running mate as I truly believe he wanted to, instead of convincing him she was his savior.
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11-05-2008, 22:33
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Sarah looks real good...
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11-05-2008, 22:56
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Sarah looks real good...
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Film on the news here tonight of her around the pool at the Biltmore Hotel today before returning to Alaska! Looking goooooood!
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11-05-2008, 22:57
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Sarah looks real good...
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Especially from my current location....
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11-06-2008, 00:28
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I have a hard time believing that Mrs. Palin would be a poor leader. She's not a puppet, nor is she a moron. She strikes me as honest, humble, and wise, which are very important aspects of a leader.
She is much more ready to lead than Barack Obama, if that is any sort of standard.
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11-06-2008, 00:38
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I have a hard time believing that Mrs. Palin would be a poor leader. She's not a puppet, nor is she a moron. She strikes me as honest, humble, and wise, which are very important aspects of a leader.
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Sir, I agree. The GOP convention wasn't going well. McCain was my first choice but it was clear that many other Republicans still had many reservations. Gov. Palin burst upon the scene like a cascade of sunlight. Her speech was the best I heard from a convention floor since 1984.
It was clear that she didn't have the educational pedigree of a typical Beltway politician, that she was more concerned with serving her constituents than what people half way around the world thought of her, and that, what ever her own preference, she had the wisdom to check with her advisers first before making a decision.
To me, Gov. Palin is admirable because she is comfortable in her own skin and doesn't feel the need to convince her supporters or her critics that she's something she's not. I'd feel much better if the president-elect were to take a lesson from her.
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11-06-2008, 04:38
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"insiders"
"insiders" with no names.
CYA time and the established "insiders" are trying to trash the only bright spot in the whole campaign.
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