11-05-2008, 15:40
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Consigliere
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Time to buy some new stuff
I figure that a lot of weapons will be banned soon. Anyone following the latest proposals? I'd like to know what I should go buy . . . 
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11-05-2008, 15:45
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I started buying a year ago. You want upper receivers with threaded Barrels. Definitely 16". Also 30 round Mags. If you want something other then an AR15 Platform go with something that is proovn. DSA FAL would be my recommendation.
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11-05-2008, 15:49
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There is legislation in the house to put a 500% tax on ammo for centerfire cartriages. So maybe ammo.
My consulation is that the wife has cleared me hot to buy what i want, but need to save up quick!
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11-05-2008, 20:16
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Originally Posted by mcarey
There is legislation in the house to put a 500% tax on ammo for centerfire cartriages. So maybe ammo.
My consulation is that the wife has cleared me hot to buy what i want, but need to save up quick!
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Or invest in a Dillon 550.
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11-05-2008, 20:22
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Originally Posted by rubberneck
Or invest in a Dillon 550.
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My thoughts precisely.
Then they will tax primers.
Oh shoot, another primer shortage! Just like the Klinton primer run.
Off to the store for 40 or 50 thousand.
TR
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11-05-2008, 15:57
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
I figure that a lot of weapons will be banned soon. Anyone following the latest proposals? I'd like to know what I should go buy . . . |
You already live in a state with restrictive laws.
All of the good stuff is illegal there.
If you were outside Kalifornia, I would recommend handguns, AR lowers, military pistol and rifle caliber ammo, and high cap mags.
Define the need/desire. What do you want to do with them?
TR
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11-05-2008, 16:19
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Time to buy some new stuff....boy, isn't THAT the truth.
I just got back from hitting a few gun shops here in town. I took in my latest acquisition, that .22 that belonged to my Grandfather, and have it looked at. At one store, there was only 1 guy working there, and he was going absolutely "bonkers", with people coming in and the phone ringing. We all waited patiently for our turn.
Next shop, had 2 guys working there, and they were handling the crowd pretty well. One customer asked one of the guys behind the counter a question about a part or something for one his guns, and the guy behind the counter said, that the dealers weren't even answering their phones. He said that he could usually get through no problem, but TODAY, his calls were going straight to recordings.
The last shop, the larger of the 3, it looked like Toys-R-Us, the day before Christmas. They had 7 guys behind the counter, and I was told, that they called in 2 more to help out. Their phone wouldn't stop ringing. As soon as one of the guys answered it, the other line was ringing, and as soon as they hung up on who they were talking to, it would start ringing again.
As for me, well I picked up a Rock Island 1911A1 .45 ACP. After I filled out my paperwork, I was told that there were 275 other applicants on the system, ahead of me, just in the state of Colorado.
Everyone in all 3 shops were thinking the same thing.....Time to buy new stuff.
BTW, that .22 I just got.....passed with flying colors. A little dirt/dust in the barrel, but that was to be expected. It hasn't been fired in well over 40 years.
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11-05-2008, 16:48
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
I figure that a lot of weapons will be banned soon. Anyone following the latest proposals? I'd like to know what I should go buy . . . |
That's too funny...and sad.
Text of the email exchange between my wife and I at 05:30 this morning:
HER: Hi Hun. Well I saw the bad news this AM : ( Should be an interesting next four.
ME: Yup, it will be ugly. We need to get out and pick up a couple rifles and a shotgun. How about for Christmas presents?
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11-05-2008, 17:02
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picked up a new USP .40 and a Mk III this morning 
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11-05-2008, 18:34
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Putting together the finishing touches to my A2 by the end of the week. Just in time.
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11-05-2008, 18:35
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Originally Posted by Ret10Echo
That's too funny...and sad.
Text of the email exchange between my wife and I at 05:30 this morning:
HER: Hi Hun. Well I saw the bad news this AM : ( Should be an interesting next four.
ME: Yup, it will be ugly. We need to get out and pick up a couple rifles and a shotgun. How about for Christmas presents?
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And her response?
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11-05-2008, 18:39
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And her response? |
We made a date
She drives the guys at the gun shop nuts by referring to firearms as "cute"...but she wields a mean .357 snub.
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11-05-2008, 20:03
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Today I "counseled" several QPs at work about not having prepared for this eventuality. Then I reminded them about the folly of proceeding without a plan and engaging in panic buying. Remember PACE, do a realistic threat analysis, and make your purchases accordingly. The start point for your analysis should be the Clinton ban. Your timeline needs to be calculated based on inaugeration and the usual time required to get a bill through congress. Adjust for the current realities. It took Clinton 18 months; Obama has a stronger hand and a more rabid constituency he has to placate. Firearms rights are a good confidence target, especially when he needs a bone to distract his supporters with "see, we're doing something". Plan accordingly. I'm not going to tell anyone what to buy; I am going to wish all of us luck.
BTW - The initial panic will skew price and availability (see recent gas crisis in NC). Wise shoppers will treat it like a stock market purchase and follow the market closely before investing. The bad news - "now we enter the winter of our discontent". There won't be any "deals" and if you don't time it right you'll pay way too much (if it's even available) for something that won't meet your real needs.
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11-05-2008, 20:22
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
I figure that a lot of weapons will be banned soon. Anyone following the latest proposals? I'd like to know what I should go buy . . . |
I was going to start a thread with the exact same question...
So far, I'm looking at a Walther P22 (better .22 suggestions are welcome) with suppressor and a Rock River 9mm 10.5" SBR.
I think I'll also head down to the Civilian Marskmanship Program warehouse and pick up a Garand and a M1 Carbine.
What will be the difficult AR parts to get? Just the lower? Should I consider investing in a few receivers just to have around to build up whenever the money comes along? Any tips greatly appreciated.
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11-05-2008, 21:10
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I think it's time to make a long overdue purchase. I have an A2 Bushmaster thats about 12 years old... never a problem, at least not yet. I've been meaning to get a 16" upper for a long time, but now I think I might just get a complete 16" weapon. This way, I have two AR's; one for me, one for the wife. Otherwise, she's stuck with an M1 carbine...OK, but not my first choice.
I am way behind the curve on keeping up with the explosion in AR technology over the last 10 years. I have been studying TR's primer on carbines, and I think I have a better idea of what I'm looking for. I don't have an unlimited budget; I figure I can spend about $1200. I want something basic, that can shoot either 55 grain or 62 grain, that will eventually have an optic, hopefully an ACOG. I'm looking at an RRA, with chrome lined 1:9 barrel, six position stock,and a mid-length quad rail fore arm, and BUIS until I can afford an ACOG. I'd like to keep it as close to an issue M4 as possible, since I want to be able to switch back and forth without thinking too much.
I also plan on increasing my inventory of 7.62mm Federal Gold Medal Match for my Remington 700, and 5.56mm for the AR's.
I'd be happy to hear any suggestions on the best deals in 5.56 and/or an M4.
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