04-14-2007, 11:40
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MP-5
 Got my first chance to shoot an MP-5. Very nice weapon, good trigger control on full auto (3-4 round bursts). Put 75 rounds within a 8x8 box using iron sights. I would have thought that sub guns would have auto as the first selector setting (like the AK). Don't know if it's worth $28K for a 2 stamp SD model - seems a little pricey.
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04-14-2007, 12:23
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MP5SD
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Originally Posted by Hipshot
 Got my first chance to shoot an MP-5. Very nice weapon, good trigger control on full auto (3-4 round bursts). Put 75 rounds within a 8x8 box using iron sights. I would have thought that sub guns would have auto as the first selector setting (like the AK). Don't know if it's worth $28K for a 2 stamp SD model - seems a little pricey.
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MP5SD models are selling for around $24,000-$28,000 depending on the wear. The selecter that you most likely fired is the referred to as the "Navy Trigger" group. Some were with a safe, semi, auto, and some are safe, semi, 3-rd burst, and full auto. I recently sold mine for $24,500. Two stamps are pending approval. I needed the money more than I need the firearm. After all it's the 14th of April.  I sold mine with a B&T mount for the M68 and replacement quad rail system with a Surefire M910A vertical foregrip light.
Here is one for sale that is a BTDS suppressor in semi auto. It can be changed over for FA sear with additonal stamp.
HERE: http://www.autoweapons.com/photos06/nov/1688mp5sd.html
If it's not an SD model then that is too highyly priced for any of the other models. A2, A3 Etc.
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04-14-2007, 19:49
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$$$$ I cannot believe the value on those. That was my first issued SWAT weapon in 1985. Hipshot is right....it was/is a fun weapon to shoot!
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04-14-2007, 19:58
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$$$$ I cannot believe the value on those. That was my first issued SWAT weapon in 1985. Hipshot is right....it was/is a fun weapon to shoot!
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MP5's are the cadilac of sub-guns. Recoil is near negligable with the 9mm Luger MP5, therefore easy to control and keep on target. Personally I alway's thought the trigger could have used some work, but what do I know ?
The SD models with the integral suppressed barrel are far more fun to shoot than the other models. They do not require sub-sonic ammo like a non-suppressed unit that is later outfitted with QD type suppressors. At least if your attmepting to achieve the sound signature reduction as specified with the suppressor (147 grain 9mm Luger)
It seems most departments SWAT/SRT teams have changed over to the AR15/M4 carbine. I guess pistol sub-guns aren't that cool any more.
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04-14-2007, 20:02
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Originally Posted by CoLawman
$$$$ I cannot believe the value on those. That was my first issued SWAT weapon in 1985. Hipshot is right....it was/is a fun weapon to shoot!
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The weapon itself cost no more than the semi-auto version to make and there are plenty of full-auto verions out there around the world. I would say that they are less than $1000 each commercial price, brand new.
The scarcity, believe it or not is due to the 1986 Firearms Owner's Protection Act which had a poison pill put in at the last minute by the anti-gunners that ended production of full-auto weapons for private ownership. There was little immediate effect, but 20 years of demand, coupled with people buying them for investments have run the prices through the roof. An M-16 lower that was less than $500 in 1986 is now worth about $12,000, just because of the law, some paperwork, two extra parts, and some machining.
Slowly but surely, the anti-gunners are driving firearms out of our reach. Once gone, they are never coming back. As they intended.
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04-14-2007, 20:38
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MP-5, never heard of it, what does it shoot?
J/K
I shot one once, ok ok ok, I've shot about 50,000 rounds through MP-5's........  I could tell stories..... but I won't.
I will say that I've never had or seen a malfunction with an MP-5, ever......
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04-14-2007, 20:54
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Love'em, want one, don't need one, just want it.
OEF Property was utilized to it's fullest in some weapons familiarization with my soldiers. The last unit was kind enough to send me to the sub-gun operations course in Sterling, VA. I had shot quite a few before that, I got a better appreciation after the course seeing how something great could be made even better with practice.
Simple function, simple iron sites, ease of operation and takedown. Can't get much better than that.
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04-14-2007, 20:48
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
The weapon itself cost no more than the semi-auto version to make and there are plenty of full-auto verions out there around the world. I would say that they are less than $1000 each commercial price, brand new.
The scarcity, believe it or not is due to the 1986 Firearms Owner's Protection Act which had a poison pill put in at the last minute by the anti-gunners that ended production of full-auto weapons for private ownership. There was little immediate effect, but 20 years of demand, coupled with people buying them for investments have run the prices through the roof. An M-16 lower that was less than $500 in 1986 is now worth about $12,000, just because of the law, some paperwork, two extra parts, and some machining.
Slowly but surely, the anti-gunners are driving firearms out of our reach. Once gone, they are never coming back. As they intended.
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Your are correct ! Not that you were looking for my confirmation. I purchased mine IIRC 5 years ago (have to check my form 4) for $8,900 and am selling it for the stated market value based on current pricing nationwide.
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I've had failures, but they were the product of handloads with light powder charges obviously not adequate enough to cycle the weapon.
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04-15-2007, 07:19
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
The weapon itself cost no more than the semi-auto version to make and there are plenty of full-auto verions out there around the world. I would say that they are less than $1000 each commercial price, brand new.
The scarcity, believe it or not is due to the 1986 Firearms Owner's Protection Act which had a poison pill put in at the last minute by the anti-gunners that ended production of full-auto weapons for private ownership. There was little immediate effect, but 20 years of demand, coupled with people buying them for investments have run the prices through the roof. An M-16 lower that was less than $500 in 1986 is now worth about $12,000, just because of the law, some paperwork, two extra parts, and some machining.
Slowly but surely, the anti-gunners are driving firearms out of our reach. Once gone, they are never coming back. As they intended.
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The M-60 that I built, in 1985, cost me less than $!,000 including the $200 for the Form 1 and is now worth over $20K!!! See here: http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ead.php?t=1705
My M-16A1 was brand new from Colt and was only $700 or so!!!
The prices are unreal!!
Later
Martin
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04-15-2007, 08:13
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The M-60 that I built, in 1985, cost me less than $!,000 including the $200 for the Form 1 and is now worth over $20K!!! See here: http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ead.php?t=1705
My M-16A1 was brand new from Colt and was only $700 or so!!!
The prices are unreal!!
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I believe your M60 would garner about $50,000 at this time. As TR said, we can blame these prices on the 86 Firarms Protection Act. For me, it's paid to have have a couple of NFA firearms, but to others, they'll not sell for any amount of money.
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