08-25-2009, 21:22
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ODA driver designation
Gents and Sirs.
I tried the search and came up empty handed. Who is designated driver in SF vehicles. Is it open and training required?
Thank you in advance.
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08-25-2009, 21:28
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Whoever got on the Team Sergeant's shit list last.
No, it is not open. Yes training is required - you must past the SFQC.
Good luck!
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08-25-2009, 21:38
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Sir,
thank you for the reply. I look forward to that day.
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08-25-2009, 21:43
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Nice to have you back in the game, Doc!  Speedgod - Yes, training is required. When you complete the SFQC you will get whatever additional training you need to do your assigned job (that's the "and other duties as assigned" part of SF).
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08-25-2009, 21:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedgod
Gents and Sirs.
I tried the search and came up empty handed. Who is designated driver in SF vehicles. Is it open and training required?
Thank you in advance.
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I'm not being sarcastic when I answer this, but, it is usually the best driver. There are no positions on an SF vehicle for amateurs. Every position is critically important. Yes, it requires training.
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08-25-2009, 22:18
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Originally Posted by Basenshukai
I'm not being sarcastic when I answer this, but, it is usually the best driver. There are no positions on an SF vehicle for amateurs. Every position is critically important. Yes, it requires training.
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Thank you sir Peregrino & Basenshukai for that information. I will do my best to prove I can be the best man for that job when it comes.
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08-26-2009, 04:45
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On my team, my drivers were also the head mechanic for their vehicle. you don't have support guys on the teams, everyone needs to know how to turn wrenches and do basic maintenance.
There are a lot of great driving courses out there. but you have to pass the SFQC first.
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08-26-2009, 06:30
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No Tab No Drive.....
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08-26-2009, 09:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Basenshukai
I'm not being sarcastic when I answer this,
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Maybe I will be sarcastic.. a little..
Scott
Your 35 yo,, have a couple kids, and I assume a happy wife, You own several Bike shops and have never spent time in the service. And you just joined the site.
Your question make no sense whatsoever... If you had/have done any reading..
You need to do lots of reading...
I would suggest you start with "Horse Soldiers" by Doug Stanton, "The Extraordinary Story of a Band of US Soldiers Who Rode to Victory in Afghanistan".
Not only do SF drive their own vehicles,, they also shoe their own horses, and pack their own mules. We actually have animal husbandry classes when & where needed.
I am not going to ask why you asked.. I will assume it was an effort to gather historical significant back ground information for a book you might write and NOT because your looking to become a "GREEN BERET DRIVER"..
My $00.0002..
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08-26-2009, 09:40
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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK
Maybe I will be sarcastic.. a little..
Scott
Your 35 yo,, have a couple kids, and I assume a happy wife, You own several Bike shops and have never spent time in the service. And you just joined the site.
Your question make no sense whatsoever... If you had/have done any reading..
You need to do lots of reading...
I would suggest you start with "Horse Soldiers" by Doug Stanton, "The Extraordinary Story of a Band of US Soldiers Who Rode to Victory in Afghanistan".
Not only do SF drive their own vehicles,, they also shoe their own horses, and pack their own mules. We actually have animal husbandry classes when & where needed.
I am not going to ask why you asked.. I will assume it was an effort to gather historical significant back ground information for a book you might write and NOT because your looking to become a "GREEN BERET DRIVER"..
My $00.0002..
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Thank you Sir JJ_BPK.
I am looking to enlist 18X. I should have done this six years ago before starting and taking over my Fathers business.
My wife knows what I want to do in life and it is not running a retail business.
I have been reading a lot of books, but did not cross the one you mention. I will pick up a copy of the above mentioned book and do some reading, it is all I do lately and I enjoy it!
Oh one quick note, had they allowed me an Option 40 six years ago I would have taken it. They would not guarantee me at the time that option as it was not available.
I am working as hard and quick as possible to get my chance at my dream.
I will not live the rest of my life with the fact of "I should have or I could have done this". It is time for me to do what I need to do.
This site is a great tool and hope to take full use of it over the next few months to help me gather what I need to give my self the best shot at making it through SFAS and on.
For me, I enjoy driving and wanted some further information on it. It would be great to be an ODA driver and I will take it if and when I get the chance.
Thank you again to all that have posted replies.
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08-26-2009, 10:01
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Originally Posted by Speedgod
Thank you Sir JJ_BPK.
I am looking to enlist 18X. I should have done this six years ago before starting and taking over my Fathers business.
My wife knows what I want to do in life and it is not running a retail business.
I have been reading a lot of books, but did not cross the one you mention. I will pick up a copy of the above mentioned book and do some reading, it is all I do lately and I enjoy it!
Oh one quick note, had they allowed me an Option 40 six years ago I would have taken it. They would not guarantee me at the time that option as it was not available.
I am working as hard and quick as possible to get my chance at my dream.
I will not live the rest of my life with the fact of "I should have or I could have done this". It is time for me to do what I need to do.
This site is a great tool and hope to take full use of it over the next few months to help me gather what I need to give my self the best shot at making it through SFAS and on.
For me, I enjoy driving and wanted some further information on it. It would be great to be an ODA driver and I will take it if and when I get the chance.
Thank you again to all that have posted replies.
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08-26-2009, 10:29
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I am looking to enlist 18X.
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Your serious??
And this isn't some mid-life epiphany??
And your wife & kids agree??
Get Col Martin's book, as suggested by Ted,,
and read my suggestion later..
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08-26-2009, 10:29
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Frankly, I think that you are too old for a team. As noted, you should have made this decision a long time ago.
Do some research here about matters that are actually relevent to your situation and pay particular attention to the ones pertaining to age and SF service.
TR
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08-26-2009, 11:29
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If I am not mistaken you are too old, at 35, to enlist as an 18X.
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08-26-2009, 12:37
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Frankly, I think that you are too old for a team. As noted, you should have made this decision a long time ago.
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I'm not sure I agree with that - our senior 18B was 42 when he graduated SFQC, and he's physically and tactically one of the top performers on the team. He was 45 when he earned the BSMV in Iraq.
Are you starting behind the power curve at 36? Sure. Are you as likely to make it through training as a 25 year old? Probably not. Are you going to spend 20 years on an ODA starting at 36? Very unlikely. Are you more likely to seriously hurt yourself than a twenty something? Well, yes.
But the outcome is more likely to be a matter of the individual than the age, and frankly, I like having some "old guys" on the team - they have to work harder and be a lot smarter at staying physically prepared, but they usually bring a little maturity and judgment, and often some life skills beyond the military, to the team.
my .02 dinars . . .
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