05-15-2009, 22:03
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Muslim Persecution of Christians
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05-16-2009, 08:00
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No doubt.
There is some ethnic cleansing going on right now, conducted by the peaceful followers of Islam, and the media isn't saying Jack about it.
TR
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05-16-2009, 17:51
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No doubt.
There is some ethnic cleansing going on right now, conducted by the peaceful followers of Islam, and the media isn't saying Jack about it.
TR
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TR,
That's not what's worrying me about what's going on in the Muslim countries.... 
It's what's going on in "our country" I'm concerned about..... 
GB TFS 
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05-18-2009, 19:29
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TR,
That's not what's worrying me about what's going on in the Muslim countries....
It's what's going on in "our country" I'm concerned about.....
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both of them concern me...but it's a dilemma. After all, persecution only confirms what's been written. So, if they have truly counted the cost and are willing to pay the price, do they really need or want help?
Sometime ago in a distant past, I played in a fund-raising orchestra in what's left of a church after being burnt in a city-wide riot targeting Christians and ethnic minority. Flashbacks to those days always put me in a contemplative mood:
- From a pragmatic/pratical standpoints, what's the big deal...if one values life, family, wants to live on to raise the kids and see them grow etc. then convert to Islam and keep on living, or move out. Evolve or perish...
- Then I realize it's more than just choosing a belief system, it is an exercise of freedom. The willingness to face persecution to the point of death shows true dedication (or pure stupidity to some) and is admirable, IMHO, especially when the faith does not involve having others die to grant entrance to the good version of after life.
- Finally, there's always: "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot.
I am thankful in good 'ol USA (so far), that freedom has not been tempered heavily. The trend is definitely worrisome, so I'm with you greenberetTFS
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05-18-2009, 19:54
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I suppose if you have years of history and tendencies you are not going to change easily, especially with a radical religion. I am very glad that I am not dealing with radical muslims here in the Balkans. I heard recently from a local that an outsider came to prayer and started trying to provoke anti-Westerners and anti-American thoughts. The Imam cast him out never to return to his mosque.
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06-13-2009, 13:42
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Why is there no shortage of stories like this??? 
Christian Man Raped, Murdered for Refusing to Convert to Islam, Family Says
Saturday, June 13, 2009
A young Christian man was raped and brutally murdered in Pakistan for refusing to convert to Islam, and police are doing nothing about it, the victim's brother and minister told FOXNews.com.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,526126,00.html
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06-13-2009, 16:24
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Why is there no shortage of stories like this???
Christian Man Raped, Murdered for Refusing to Convert to Islam, Family Says
Saturday, June 13, 2009
A young Christian man was raped and brutally murdered in Pakistan for refusing to convert to Islam, and police are doing nothing about it, the victim's brother and minister told FOXNews.com.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,526126,00.html |
It's just a shame that our friendly,loving muslims would be accused of such an atrocity as this.............. It says so much for their peaceful Islamic religion,doesn't it.....
GB TFS
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I believe that SF is a 'calling' - not too different from the calling missionaries I know received. I knew instantly that it was for me, and that I would do all I could to achieve it. Most others I know in SF experienced something similar. If, as you say, you HAVE searched and read, and you do not KNOW if this is the path for you --- it is not....
Zonie Diver
SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
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07-10-2009, 11:27
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Somali Muslims Behead 7 'Christian Followers'
Somali Islamist hardliners behead 7 "spies"
Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:03am GMT
MOGADISHU (Reuters) - Somalia's hardline Islamist rebels beheaded seven people on Friday for being "Christians" and "spies" in the latest imposition of strict sharia, Islamic law, by the al Qaeda-linked al Shabaab group, witnesses said.
Al Shabaab, which controls large tracts of south Somalia and parts of the capital Mogadishu, has carried out such executions before, but the beheadings on Friday were believed to be the largest number of killings at one time, Somalis say.
"Al Shabaab told us that they were beheaded for reasons they described as being Christian followers and spies," said one relative, who gave his name only as Aden, after the killings in the south-central town of Baidoa...
http://af.reuters.com/article/topNew...5690BW20090710
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07-10-2009, 12:02
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I just don't get it,the MSM is so supportive when it comes to Islam,Muslims and downplaying their atrocities........ When will telling the truth ever start being told?  In IMO this country is heading into some serious $hit with this emerging Islam religious growth.......
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I believe that SF is a 'calling' - not too different from the calling missionaries I know received. I knew instantly that it was for me, and that I would do all I could to achieve it. Most others I know in SF experienced something similar. If, as you say, you HAVE searched and read, and you do not KNOW if this is the path for you --- it is not....
Zonie Diver
SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
Jack Moroney
SFA M-2527, Chapter XXXVII
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07-11-2009, 07:56
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The headline suggests the seven were killed for apostasy. No more information about the religious motivation for the killings is given in the story.
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Islamist insurgents behead 7 Somalis for 'spying on government and abandoning Islam'
Islamist fighters beheaded seven Somalis accused of renouncing their Muslim faith and spying for the government.
Published: 12:03AM BST 11 Jul 2009
The public killings in the southwestern town of Baidoa followed weeks of fierce fighting as the Islamists try to seize Somalia's capital, Mogadishu.
The beheadings were the largest mass execution since the Islamists were pushed from power two and a half years ago, but they follow many individual executions, amputations and stonings...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ing-Islam.html
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07-11-2009, 08:05
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It's all about power and advantage - always has been and always will be - no matter how the philosophical package is wrapped and marketed for selling to the public.
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