02-25-2004, 21:07
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Tent
Hi,
I would like to know when a team usually uses a tent, in wich type of weather.
Thank you very much.
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02-25-2004, 21:11
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When would you use a TENT ???
You may be able to answer your own question !!!
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02-25-2004, 21:20
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Excuse me if it sounds an obvious question, but let's me explain why I ask this. 
The setup of a tent is time consuming.
A tent has a big shape.
A tent is not absolutly necessarily, even in bad conditions.
So, I would like to know at wich point a team normally uses a tent.
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02-25-2004, 21:23
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I never have, on a team.
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02-25-2004, 21:25
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I have but only a couple of times and only in sub-zero temps.
10th Group soldiers are the experts in the tent area.
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02-25-2004, 21:33
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Really, if you think about it, I would have always carried the BIGGEST thing I could find and pitch it way the hell away from where I was !!! I have Never slept in a tent, except when in Boy Scouts, Camp MacKall and when camping with the Family !!
Edited to say that I do not consider the time that I spent at CMK to have been a Boy Scout experience !!!! 
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02-25-2004, 21:33
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I never have, on a team.
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Thank you TR,
I wasnt sure but I am not surprised.
What about...houch (excuse-me but I really dont know how to say it in English)? Do you bring houch with you?
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02-25-2004, 21:48
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Yep, used an Aussie hootch any time a shelter was appropriate.
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02-25-2004, 21:59
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Yep, used an Aussie hootch any time a shelter was appropriate.
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Thank you for such a fast answer. This is amazing to just refresh the page and have (magic!) an answer! 
A team has this difference that it cannot really be relieved and protected by another formation.This is why the hide setup and SOPs are so importants.
PS: in French, hootch is ,,hoo-ch-e''.Dont pronounce the "t" before the ch.Pronounce the "e" in English. Always useful to know... ; )
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02-25-2004, 22:04
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Not trying to be sarcastic here, but if you can translate any of the following into what you consider to be a Houch then yes we would take them with us:
A pile of rocks.
A Rucksack set on the uphill side of a tree with the straps let out as far as they can go, so you could go to the downhill side of said tree, sit down, hook your arms into the straps, secure straps, weapon, etc. and get a good nights sleep without having to worry about falling off of the side of the mountain .
A swamp full of who knows what, you snag a branch and get your arm over it so you can keep your face out of the water and sleep when you can.
If you consider a houch to be any place imaginable that one could sleep, then yes, we carried a houch with us .
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02-29-2004, 22:21
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Quote:
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A team has this difference that it cannot really be relieved and protected by another formation.
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FWIW, I never saw anyone use a tent in the Marine infantry either. If it rains, then use your poncho. Around '93 some guys bought aftermarket gore-tex bivvy bags for wet weather. But I never saw a tent (read: shelter half) used after I left boot camp for anything but command post, logistical purposes.
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02-29-2004, 22:32
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D9 - 2 man Eureka tents are a draw as needed item from supply now in the Corps. 
Nice to have 'em for some situations (spending an overnight on a range in CONUS for example), tho never on a mission.
Way better than the POS shelter half.
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02-29-2004, 22:43
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Way better than the POS shelter half.
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Anyone ever actually put two shelter halfs together, outside of Basic Training?
The only time I ever slept in a tent in the Army was during ECW Training, and we had to pull that thing around on an akhio.
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02-29-2004, 22:54
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FWIW, I never saw anyone use a tent in the Marine infantry either. If it rains, then use your poncho. Around '93 some guys bought aftermarket gore-tex bivvy bags for wet weather. But I never saw a tent (read: shelter half) used after I left boot camp for anything but command post, logistical purposes.
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Hi D9,
I was thinking more about winter and arctic conditions.The rain is definitively not a case for a tent.
Personnaly I like my gore-tex bivvy bag.If the temperature drops below minus 10-15 C, i like to use an air matrix or foam, to stay warm.But the air matrix is bad because the noise is makes when you fold it.
How do you call the foam 'carpet' in your army??
Thank you
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03-01-2004, 06:40
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Anyone ever actually put two shelter halfs together, outside of Basic Training?
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Korea, in February.
I build a mean Poncho hootch, but at 53 below and snowing, you better have something a little better.
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