11-05-2008, 20:00
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Sarah Palin isn't looking too good
I just got done watching a Fox news report about the supposed rift between Sarah Palin and the McCain insiders and it wasn't pretty.
According the report the people in charge of getting her up to speed with the campaign were stunned about her lack of basic knowledge. It was reported that she couldn't name the countries involved in NAFTA, she misidentified Africa as a country and didn't understand the concept of American Exceptionalism. In short she was described as a very shallow woman, in way over her head and totally incapable of dealing with the stresses of a Presidential Campaign.
With that sort of rep leaking out of the McCain camp I wonder if she has any future in the Republican party at the national level.
The video isn't on the Fox website but it should be tomorrow.
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11-05-2008, 21:44
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Originally Posted by rubberneck
With that sort of rep leaking out of the McCain camp I wonder if she has any future in the Republican party at the national level.
The video isn't on the Fox website but it should be tomorrow.
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I saw that report. Have to wonder...is it true, and is she the scapegoat?
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11-05-2008, 21:47
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It's just staff CYA.
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11-05-2008, 22:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubberneck
I just got done watching a Fox news report about the supposed rift between Sarah Palin and the McCain insiders and it wasn't pretty.
According the report the people in charge of getting her up to speed with the campaign were stunned about her lack of basic knowledge. It was reported that she couldn't name the countries involved in NAFTA, she misidentified Africa as a country and didn't understand the concept of American Exceptionalism. In short she was described as a very shallow woman, in way over her head and totally incapable of dealing with the stresses of a Presidential Campaign.
With that sort of rep leaking out of the McCain camp I wonder if she has any future in the Republican party at the national level.
The video isn't on the Fox website but it should be tomorrow.
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So why did they pick her? Staff is responsible for due diligence, and they screwed it up. This makes them look bad, not her.
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11-05-2008, 22:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubberneck
I just got done watching a Fox news report about the supposed rift between Sarah Palin and the McCain insiders and it wasn't pretty.
According the report the people in charge of getting her up to speed with the campaign were stunned about her lack of basic knowledge. It was reported that she couldn't name the countries involved in NAFTA, she misidentified Africa as a country and didn't understand the concept of American Exceptionalism. In short she was described as a very shallow woman, in way over her head and totally incapable of dealing with the stresses of a Presidential Campaign.
With that sort of rep leaking out of the McCain camp I wonder if she has any future in the Republican party at the national level.
The video isn't on the Fox website but it should be tomorrow.
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I wouldn't expect anything less from the folks that ran a completly inept campaign. Had they let Sarah be Sarah and McCain be McCain instead of trying to mold them into what they thought everyone wanted them to be things might have been different. From what I understand, the reason she did so poorly in the initial interviews was because they tried to change her. When they finally let her be herself in the debate with Biden is when she truly shined.
Wouldn't want anyone to man (or woman) up and say it was their fault now would we? It's easier to toss the person who energized the base more than anyone in recent memory under the bus. If they realized she was so dense then maybe they should have allowed McCain to pick Lieberman to be his running mate as I truly believe he wanted to, instead of convincing him she was his savior.
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11-05-2008, 22:33
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Sarah looks real good...
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11-05-2008, 22:56
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Sarah looks real good...
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Film on the news here tonight of her around the pool at the Biltmore Hotel today before returning to Alaska! Looking goooooood!
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11-05-2008, 22:57
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Sarah looks real good...
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Especially from my current location....
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11-06-2008, 00:28
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I have a hard time believing that Mrs. Palin would be a poor leader. She's not a puppet, nor is she a moron. She strikes me as honest, humble, and wise, which are very important aspects of a leader.
She is much more ready to lead than Barack Obama, if that is any sort of standard.
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11-06-2008, 00:38
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I have a hard time believing that Mrs. Palin would be a poor leader. She's not a puppet, nor is she a moron. She strikes me as honest, humble, and wise, which are very important aspects of a leader.
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Sir, I agree. The GOP convention wasn't going well. McCain was my first choice but it was clear that many other Republicans still had many reservations. Gov. Palin burst upon the scene like a cascade of sunlight. Her speech was the best I heard from a convention floor since 1984.
It was clear that she didn't have the educational pedigree of a typical Beltway politician, that she was more concerned with serving her constituents than what people half way around the world thought of her, and that, what ever her own preference, she had the wisdom to check with her advisers first before making a decision.
To me, Gov. Palin is admirable because she is comfortable in her own skin and doesn't feel the need to convince her supporters or her critics that she's something she's not. I'd feel much better if the president-elect were to take a lesson from her.
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11-06-2008, 04:38
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"insiders"
"insiders" with no names.
CYA time and the established "insiders" are trying to trash the only bright spot in the whole campaign.
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11-06-2008, 05:16
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Originally Posted by Pete
"insiders" with no names.
CYA time and the established "insiders" are trying to trash the only bright spot in the whole campaign.
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Concur...the bodies stacked under buses in D.C. will make navigation difficult at best.
The suck-up-and-maneuver season is getting wound up.
Political appointee pet projects have just gone from being High Priority to the trash heap. Career Civil Servants will drag their heels and delay knowing the end is near.
The photo in the picture frames by the front door will be changed out and the bureaucracy will continue to grind along.
It is in real terms a peaceful exchange of power. In many places there would be machete-wielding loons in the street....
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11-06-2008, 07:11
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I believe this is just scapegoating on the part of a failed campaign by inept campaign staff. I think I can confidently state that Juan McCain got as many votes as he did because of Sarah Palin. I had no intention of voting for him until he put her on the ticket, and I dare say I'm not in the minority.
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11-06-2008, 07:13
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I think there is a wing of the Republican party that is distinctly liberal. Therefore, they wish to discredit a promising conservative candidate before she has a chance to build a strong following. They may be too late.
There is also the issue of shallowness. Most people are shallow in some areas. I have not known many people I can regard as leaders - but the few who meet that standard share some attributes. They are smart, of course; in addition, they have solid knowledge in a number of areas. However, the important aspect of character is their ability to work through others, and to bring out the best elements of subordinates. Thus, it is less important that a leader know the details of NAFTA than that she find and use good people who do. It seems to me that Sarah Palin could be a good and effective leader.
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11-06-2008, 07:45
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