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Originally Posted by Gene Econ
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Hopefully I didn't chew up your comments too badly.
Gene
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Chew away, we can settle it on the range shoulder to shoulder using off the shelf guns, off the shelf ammo and holsters, case of beer to the victor……
This is where we differ. I would not refer anyone that I know to a competitive shooter for training unless they desired that training for IPSC or to become some sort of competitive shooter themselves.
Competitive shooter’s have zilch to offer in the way of tactics and in fact procedures they execute in the course of shooting their scenarios will get one killed in a world where the range is “two way” and there is no timing buzzer to start or stop the action.
Another good reason not to take classes from a competitive shooter is teaching simple muscle reflex exercises (such as the AMU shooter in the video) that has little purpose in the world of police officers and military. My point being the military (and just about every police officer I trained) do not wear competitive mag holders/carriers on their gear due to the fact they work in rough terrain and wear gear that will retain those magazines in a real combat situation. Teaching them a magazine change they are not used to or not utilizing their “work” gear is ludicrous, if you doubt me as some police officers how many have tried to “load” a flashlight into their empty weapon……
I would like to see police officers and conventional military with an improved approach to marksmanship and less on the “speed” training. Speed is nice, sometimes, but accuracy is a must. You can be the fastest in the world but if you cannot hit the water for falling off the boat then you can forget about winning any fight.
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Originally Posted by Gene Econ
I don't have problems learning how to succeed from any sports champion -- no matter his discipline. A soldier can be a thousand times better as a soldier if he believed and emulated the thinking process of someone like Lance Armstrong for example. His shooting skills would improve dramatically as well as any other skill. That is what you will get from a National or International Champion -- a means of thinking that allows you to be much, much, better than anyone else.
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I’ll stick with taking shooting classes and the mindset that goes along with it from combat veterans as I've yet to hear about a national sports champ capable of standing toe to toe with the al-qaeda idiots and succeeding.
TS