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Old 07-28-2005, 08:41   #34
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QUOTE=aricbcool]1. Perhaps that event is so well known because it is so unusual... You can look at it two ways, there aren't any famous reports about vigilant citizens protecting the innocent because it doesn't happen, or because it's not "newsworthy". I think the latter.

2.I'm not going to volunteer for law enforcement, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I wouldn't try to help in a crisis situation...

3.Just because someone isn't willing to put in the sacrifice of joining the military doesn't mean they wouldn't do their part in a local situation
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No, there aren't very many out there
You just contradicted your initial premise.........a plane full of well armed angry citizens. You have conceded the point!

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And I think that this is due to social conditioning and a removal of liberty, that gives each private citizen (non-LEO, non-military) the idea that to stay out of the way and let the professionals handle it is the safest solution. Doesn't always work that way. See: Kitty Genovese 1964
Stay out of the way?........they didn't even call the police! And in this case that is why it did not work!



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I once thought that way too. I used to have zero faith in "the video game generation".
I never said I had zero faith in your generation.

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However, after seeing these men and women stand up and accomplish what they have in the GWOT (or conflict formerly known as GWOT ), I think that this class may not be so few or dwindling as before. I think there is still hope
Exactly what I was talking about! These are the individuals that have placed service to country above all else. The exception not the rule.

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Because of their social conditioning... (i.e. their experience with the military)
Thank you for again conceding a point. The military experience produces the type of vigilant citizen you seek or believe is anxiously waiting for that challenging moment to prove they are not afflicted with the "Bystander Syndrome" studied extensively since the Genovese Case.

The Bystander Syndrome is a recognized phenomenon as is the Stockholm syndrome. Read up on both of these.....it might give you a different perspective on what the significance of the Genovese case is all about. Has nothing to do with newsworthy!

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I submit that if this country grew a backbone and (through the public schools and other government programs) started focusing more on the core values that this country was built on as opposed to all of the PC victimhood crap, there would be no need for your preference.
........through public schools and government programs...
You mean like military service or attending a military academy! You do not need to reinvent the wheel. That which you seek is already there. The only thing lacking is the people walking up to the door.

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