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1. Kitty Genovese 1964. 38 witnesses to her homicide, not a single person came to her aid.
2. Law enforcement 2005 starting pay 48,000 a year ,extreme shortage of officers and very small number of applicants.
3. Military fails to meet recruitment goals for the past 7 months.
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1. Perhaps that event is so well known because it is so unusual... You can look at it two ways, there aren't any famous reports about vigilant citizens protecting the innocent because it doesn't happen, or because it's not "newsworthy". I think the latter.
2.I'm not going to volunteer for law enforcement, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I wouldn't try to help in a crisis situation...
3.Just because someone isn't willing to put in the sacrifice of joining the military doesn't mean they wouldn't do their part in a local situation...
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Does not support the belief that there are citizens (in great enough numbers) to volunteer to be vigilant in the face of a threat or an attack. Heck the majority of the professionals are not willing to commit time and effort in learning self defense tactics.....and it is their job!
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No, there aren't very many out there. And I think that this is due to social conditioning and a removal of liberty, that gives each private citizen (non-LEO, non-military) the idea that to stay out of the way and let the professionals handle it is the safest solution. Doesn't always work that way. See: Kitty Genovese 1964
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Originally Posted by CoLawman
To many Neville Chamberlain personas and far too few Winston Churchill's today.
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Couldn't agree more...
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And that sir is why each time a soldier or cop is killed we should be mindful of what a tremendous loss it is to our nation.
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Amen...
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Because that individual we lost is a member of a shrinking class. A courageous class of citizens that feel that service to country is noble and compulsory regardless of risk or sacrifice.
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I once thought that way too. I used to have zero faith in "the video game generation". However, after seeing these men and women stand up and accomplish what they have in the GWOT (or conflict formerly known as GWOT

), I think that this class may not be so few or dwindling as before. I think there is still hope.
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Citizens with nail clippers, hat pins, and derringers.......don't need them or want them. I just want a couple kids on my flight that have served their country. Unarmed they will give me a better chance of surviving any attempted terrorist attack!
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Because of their social conditioning... (i.e. their experience with the military)
I submit that if this country grew a backbone and (through the public schools and other government programs) started focusing more on the core values that this country was built on as opposed to all of the PC victimhood crap, there would be no need for your preference.
Counterpoint?
Respectfully,
Aric