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Old 07-10-2005, 13:57   #26
Peregrino
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
(Warning: Do not try this technique with a real handgun and bullets as Serious injury or death can occur! Warning!)

What do you think would happen given a large caliber handgun, say, .45. and using ONLY two fingers (thumb and middle finger actually) to hold the grip and one other to pull the trigger, what do you think a five shot group would look like at say 15-20 feet?

Instructors?

(Warning: Do not try this technique with a real handgun and bullets as Serious injury or death can occur! Warning!)
Actually I have performed this STUNT (that's exactly what it is/was) as a confidence demonstration for students who had been brainwashed/terrified by a previous "instructor" or "Walter Mittie" gun writer pushing a 9mm agenda. This was a pretty common occurance when the initial arguments in favor of the M9 were being fielded. It goes a long way towards dispelling the myths about the "awesome" uncontrollable recoil of the 1911. Group size was respectable. I did NOT have the students repeat the demonstration. I would not recommend attempting this with a magnum revolver. Thankfully, real world experience and more credible instructors and gun writers/gurus are restoring the .45's popularity with the general populace so this is no longer the problem/perception it was.

I also remember Paul Poole in the late 70's at Mott Lake shooting a 1911 held upside down in a loose (but controlled) grip and manipulating the trigger with his pinky (little finger). He shot very respectably and it didn't matter how he held the pistol. Recoil control (follow-through and recovery) does not require a "death grip". It does require paying attention and mastering some basic principles.

Will an inadequate/incorrect grip allow anyone to fire as rapidly and accurately as a proper grip/stance? Will it adequately control recoil? Emphatically NO! Is it recomended? Again - NO. That's why TS highlighted his warnings. All shooters should concentrate on assuming a "combat stance" (aggressive is the shortest description), firm high grip, getting adequate support from the non-firing hand (whenever possible), achieving a frontsight focus, executing a controlled squeeze of the trigger, and riding the front sight back into the target so you can repeat as required until the threat isn't there any more.

Nowhere in the previous discussions are tactics included! This is just one step in a series of steps to gain marksmanship proficiency as you work towards becoming combat effective. FWIW.

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