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NousDefionsDoc · 03-01-2004, 14:31

Good post D9, whether one agrees or not.

In addition to what you stated, I find the issue of examples, both good and bad, interesting. Imagine how Sharia law will look next to a democratic Kurdistan (getting economic help from the US). If the others want Sharia in their part, we just won't deal with them. Imagine if a 1960s Cuba was next door to Haiti instead of the Dom Rep. I think this idea of examples is the problem Turkey has with a Kurdistan and most Muslim countries have with our management of Iraq. They don't want an example next door that makes them look bad and they're not stupid enough to think it doesn't matter. I also believe this is one of the many reasons Israel is so hated.

I would love to see the US form a "American Union". North, Central and South America. Partly to offset the EU, and partly to set the example. If nothing else, I would love to see the US and Canada focus on bringing Mexico closer to parity ( the strategic goal behind NAFTA). In my opinion, history is circular, not linear. Around the turn of the century, Mexico was a huge issue for the US. And to me, it is now again. In order to improve situations such as drugs, illegal immigration, infiltration of terrorists, loss of jobs, etc., we have to bring Mexico up, not build a fence.

I think one of the best ways to stabilize (and conversly destablize) a region is insert a new player into it. Look at what the establishment of Israel as a state has done to the ME in 60 years. Imagine what a democratic Iraq or Kurdistan will do.

Imagine North America with a strong Mexico and the three countries actually working together to resolve issues. Imagine the result of not doing it. Imagine a bio attack in LA, the consequences for Mexico would be catastrophic. Probably worse than for the US.

I would support aiding Mexico ten fold and never giving another dime to Egypt for example.

I support giving, giving parts of Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil and Venezuela to the FARC. Let them grow their coca, run their country their way. Hell they can name Marulanda king if they want. But the first time we find a boatload of coke in Miami, one JDAAM in the air conditioner. We would know where to find them and the collateral damage would be greatly reduced. Put all the rats in one place. No trade agreements, no relations of any kind. How long would it take for the average Joe to move across the street to the good side? I say better to have a bad neighbor next door than a bad house guest living with you.

Security communities is where it should be I think.

03-01-2004, 14:31	#10
NousDefionsDoc Quiet Professional Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: LA Posts: 1,653	Good post D9, whether one agrees or not. In addition to what you stated, I find the issue of examples, both good and bad, interesting. Imagine how Sharia law will look next to a democratic Kurdistan (getting economic help from the US). If the others want Sharia in their part, we just won't deal with them. Imagine if a 1960s Cuba was next door to Haiti instead of the Dom Rep. I think this idea of examples is the problem Turkey has with a Kurdistan and most Muslim countries have with our management of Iraq. They don't want an example next door that makes them look bad and they're not stupid enough to think it doesn't matter. I also believe this is one of the many reasons Israel is so hated. I would love to see the US form a "American Union". North, Central and South America. Partly to offset the EU, and partly to set the example. If nothing else, I would love to see the US and Canada focus on bringing Mexico closer to parity ( the strategic goal behind NAFTA). In my opinion, history is circular, not linear. Around the turn of the century, Mexico was a huge issue for the US. And to me, it is now again. In order to improve situations such as drugs, illegal immigration, infiltration of terrorists, loss of jobs, etc., we have to bring Mexico up, not build a fence. I think one of the best ways to stabilize (and conversly destablize) a region is insert a new player into it. Look at what the establishment of Israel as a state has done to the ME in 60 years. Imagine what a democratic Iraq or Kurdistan will do. Imagine North America with a strong Mexico and the three countries actually working together to resolve issues. Imagine the result of not doing it. Imagine a bio attack in LA, the consequences for Mexico would be catastrophic. Probably worse than for the US. I would support aiding Mexico ten fold and never giving another dime to Egypt for example. I support giving, giving parts of Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil and Venezuela to the FARC. Let them grow their coca, run their country their way. Hell they can name Marulanda king if they want. But the first time we find a boatload of coke in Miami, one JDAAM in the air conditioner. We would know where to find them and the collateral damage would be greatly reduced. Put all the rats in one place. No trade agreements, no relations of any kind. How long would it take for the average Joe to move across the street to the good side? I say better to have a bad neighbor next door than a bad house guest living with you. Security communities is where it should be I think. __________________ Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home. He knows only The Cause. Still want to quit?
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