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Old 09-15-2025, 06:48   #32
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Originally Posted by milkman View Post
I'm not a conspiracy man. So a person who has some experience shooting, could shoot a sitting man in the neck at 200 ? yards? Also down slope angle under a cover from the tent.
Ok….. so….. without being to wonky about long-range-marksmanship I’ll see if I can help.

First, what is the inherent accuracy of his rifle-ammo combination? This is “how big of a spread” expected mechanically. Imagine locking the rifle into an unmovable rest and shooting 10 rounds. What is that spread at 100 meters. Typically this is expressed in MOA which is an angular measurement. For reference, 1 MOA at 100m is approximately 1 inch. At 200m approximately 2 inches. Etc.

My educated guess would be this rifle / ammo combo is between 3 and 4 MOA meaning at 200m it’s roughly a 6-8 inches group (the bullet could land anywhere inside that circle).

Second, what is the capability of the shooter? Factors like shooter ability / training (unknown), shooting position (prone is good but no bipod is bad), and his general understanding of ballistics.

With a simple YouTube search his ballistics understanding could be better than you’d think. Additional factors like the psychology of actually shooting at another human being with the understanding that you have to run, fast, and from the police are also hard to account for, but generally diminish accuracy of the shot.

Third, other environmental factors like wind, density altitude (how thick the air is), slope (angle the shot was taken above / below), and the like?

At 200m these variables make up less than an estimated 0.5 MOA combined with that rifle and ammo combo. So, those factors are not a big deal.

Overall, I’d say there was a bit of luck involved (only that the guy got a lucky shot, not that Mr Kirk was the target), but in reality , a 200m shot with a 30-06 is a chip-shot at best. Hell, I don’t even think he’d have to dial / hold DOPE on the scope?

For reference, the US Army takes “never-evers’ and has them shooting 300m with irons in less than 2 weeks.

This whole thing is a tragedy, but I’m glad to see that maybe the aMErican public is starting to realize that the extreme left is evil and needs to be dealt with.
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